From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Feb 20 14:43:36 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from boris.netgate.net (boris.netgate.net [204.145.147.154]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F94A37BF9B for ; Sun, 20 Feb 2000 14:43:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wellsian@caffeine.com) Received: from localhost (wellsian@localhost) by boris.netgate.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA35068; Sun, 20 Feb 2000 14:24:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wellsian@caffeine.com) Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 14:24:32 -0800 (PST) From: wellsian X-Sender: wellsian@boris.netgate.net To: cjclark@home.com Cc: andrew@ugh.net.au, questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD on a Mac In-Reply-To: <20000220164114.G36373@cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Crist, the key there is Lismore's Blue Label emulator. It's a $30 emulator that lets a PowerPC Mac actually boot and run quite a few other OSs (Win(allbut2k),Solaris, SCO, etc.). Now, I haven't tried it myself, but Lismore does claim FreeBSD support. Andrew, I'm betting Lismore hasn't worked out support for fbsd 4 yet. 3.x works, right? There are probably plenty of changes from 3.x to 4 that break their "special-casing". Send Lismore a note. But remember, PowerEmulator is an _emulator_. It cannot run intel code nearly as quickly as an intel box of similar displacement. (No dig intended. An Intel cpu would have similar trouble emulating your Mac's PPC.) If you really want to run xBSD, choose one that has native PPC support for your model of Mac. Both OpenBSD and NetBSD have projects underway. (I'm not familiar with their status.) And send notes to the OpenBSD and NetBSD groups. A big reason for the success of these intel boxes is the relative cheapness of the hardware. A big part of Mac's value, and the cost of the box, is in the HI. It strikes me as sad to make your Mac into an emulator for intel 'nixs. Unless it's just to screw around of course! :) Dave On Sun, 20 Feb 2000, Crist J. Clark wrote: > On Sun, Feb 20, 2000 at 02:55:18PM +1000, andrew@ugh.net.au wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I'm trying to install a 4.0 SNAP on my iBook using Lismore Software's Blue > > Label Power Emulator (v 1.5 + the components update). I disable all the > > devices I dont have using the visual kernel configuration and the kernel > > seems to boot fine, finding all my devices. It then prints the message: > > > > Mounting root from ufs:/dev/md0c > > > > and hangs. The previous message was the detection of my CDROM. I'm using > > the 2.88 MB boot.flp. > > > > I can boot using a 3.4 boot floppy and get the installer to install 4.0 > > and everything goes OK until it comes to running MAKEDEV where sh exits > > with unknown syscall. I assume this is because the installer is running > > the sh it just installed (the 4.0 sh) on a 3 kernel. > > > > I can install 3.4 using the 3.4 installer OK but FreeBSD wont boot > > afterwards. After the line "Booting [kernel]" it prints the values of the > > registers to the screen and says "System Halted". It does this twice. I > > havent included a transcript but if it might help I will copy it out. > > > > On a probably unrelated matter, if I have the FPU switched on in the > > emulator with full optimisation FreeBSD says: > > > > npx0: error reporting broken; using 387 emulator > > > > but continues to boot. If I have standard optimisation on FreeBSD freezes > > after detecting npx0..the line about 16 somethings...switching the FPU off > > in the emulator solves all these problems. > > > > > > Any ideas? > > Yeah, FreeBSD only runs on i386 and Alpha architectures. That your > installs get as far as they do has me quite confused though. Perhaps > you should try NetBSD. > -- > Crist J. Clark cjclark@home.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message