From owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 13 20:22:22 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: cvs-all@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B027916A4CF; Tue, 13 Jul 2004 20:22:22 +0000 (GMT) Received: from harmony.village.org (rover.village.org [168.103.84.182]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47EA343D48; Tue, 13 Jul 2004 20:22:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Received: from localhost (warner@rover2.village.org [10.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i6DKK91L052777; Tue, 13 Jul 2004 14:20:09 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2004 14:20:11 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <20040713.142011.51857482.imp@bsdimp.com> To: phk@phk.freebsd.dk From: "M. Warner Losh" In-Reply-To: <24061.1089748873@critter.freebsd.dk> References: <40F43DFE.3000402@freebsd.org> <24061.1089748873@critter.freebsd.dk> X-Mailer: Mew version 3.3 on Emacs 21.3 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: cvs-src@freebsd.org cc: src-committers@freebsd.org cc: scottl@freebsd.org cc: cvs-all@freebsd.org cc: nate@root.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/sbin/kldunload kldunload.8 kldunload.c X-BeenThere: cvs-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: CVS commit messages for the entire tree List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2004 20:22:22 -0000 In message: <24061.1089748873@critter.freebsd.dk> "Poul-Henning Kamp" writes: : In message <40F43DFE.3000402@freebsd.org>, Scott Long writes: : : >It typically won't be duplicated. This particular work is good for : >things like GEOM modules that don't fit into newbus. If at some point : >in the future newbus becomes aware of pseudo-drivers (drivers not : >attached by a hardware bus) then this should indeed be revisited. : : I wish I could grasp from where this "newbus fits all" attiude : comes, I certainly see nothing anywhere that could explain it. Too many years of having weird, odd-ball attachments maybe? That's why newbus was created: to have a unified heirarchy to make it easier to write drivers. Frankly, I dislike your obstructionist attitudes towards newbus. Warenr