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Date:      Fri, 21 Sep 2007 10:10:06 -0700
From:      "Kevin Oberman" <oberman@es.net>
To:        Norberto Meijome <freebsd@meijome.net>
Cc:        freebsd-net@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Quagga as border router 
Message-ID:  <20070921171006.90BEF45027@ptavv.es.net>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 21 Sep 2007 21:46:02 %2B1000." <20070921214602.38487d27@meijome.net> 

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> Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 21:46:02 +1000
> From: Norberto Meijome <freebsd@meijome.net>
> Sender: owner-freebsd-net@freebsd.org
> 
> On Thu, 20 Sep 2007 23:54:49 -0400
> Richard A Steenbergen <ras@e-gerbil.net> wrote:
> 
> > Honestly, FreeBSD routing code is pretty poor as far as a modern router 
> > goes. If you throw enough CPU at it you can brute force your way through 
> > plenty of things, but in the context of modern commercial routers it 
> > doesn't even play in the same league (even for a software-only router).
> 
> Interesting.... what is the golden aim of software based router we should be
> trying to reach? 
> 
> IMHO, comparing routing code in software vs. hardware routing, or vs a
> RTOS seems a bit useless (unless the comparison is something like 'we
> could do things much faster this way, but that would force us to go
> down the path of hard RT OS..) Which is different to saying 'well,
> this and that part of x and Y are inefficient / too expensive for the
> latest cpu models."
> 
> I'm not bagging you , but there's always the balance to be had -
> something very flexible (as *BSD / Linux ) vs something very rigid
> (programmatically) but very fast / scalable... i'm interested in
> seeing how / whether we efficiency can be increased without losing the
> flexibility (of course, @ the cost of time,etc...something needs to
> give :D )

Ever run into a non-existent 'olive'? Or even a J series Juniper?
Juniper put together a very impressive software based routing system
that is FreeBSD based.
-- 
R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer
Energy Sciences Network (ESnet)
Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab)
E-mail: oberman@es.net			Phone: +1 510 486-8634
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