From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 3 14:00:33 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DEB1106567B; Sun, 3 Jun 2012 14:00:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from superbisquit@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pb0-f54.google.com (mail-pb0-f54.google.com [209.85.160.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 841D88FC17; Sun, 3 Jun 2012 14:00:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pbbro2 with SMTP id ro2so5190520pbb.13 for ; Sun, 03 Jun 2012 07:00:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=+hLAkp92zA2F0wwi9UnbS39b2DUcbtNj6EM6jzcG6vw=; b=S4WblKTY4qlJeQAYm7jPPgVZZo23vINTP3D6yrNA0OaiiZsV11bmMLIqhtD5ZttuKt vtSa/F6hi8QJ8A2wNMLcF4r8iwlzKPf1146+VTzp2+6C+SvdqNEBTTu/OrCBNQNhJwmM iZeKeklPnEtUNmqZDL2ruhPFdti1k5XlVFRgScCUHKYmRpm8jVn77ie6Spp5x6AKkUrh aR2cnwoJV9xxiomg6feD8ty6k1q4iz6opUeNs1fsgWfhuFGZgKrCY4wcUBDj4WtHkT67 TuFwFh7ck58haOaczhUFY1j96QWmR8y7+KQ6EGnoR86cV6EnhrhqtxlJdBawkzEzDqRQ zRhQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.68.132.34 with SMTP id or2mr29960649pbb.118.1338732011029; Sun, 03 Jun 2012 07:00:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.68.6.201 with HTTP; Sun, 3 Jun 2012 07:00:10 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <3851080.JQJobqxLc8@x220.ovitrap.com> References: <2421561.4aJcXPZZxh@x220.ovitrap.com> <4FCB38F2.4030505@ateamsystems.com> <3851080.JQJobqxLc8@x220.ovitrap.com> Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2012 10:00:10 -0400 Message-ID: From: Super Bisquit To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-current Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Subject: Re: Why Are You NOT Using FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2012 14:00:33 -0000 On Sun, Jun 3, 2012 at 9:29 AM, Erich wrote: > Hi, > > On 03 June 2012 PM 5:14:10 Adam Strohl wrote: >> On 6/3/2012 11:14, Erich wrote: >> > What I really do not understand in this whole discussion is very simpl= e. Is it just a few people who run into problems like this or is this simpl= y ignored by the people who set the strategy for FreeBSD? >> > >> > I mention since yeares here that putting version numbers onto the port= tree would solve many of these problems. All I get as an answer is that it= is not possible. >> > >> > I think that this should be easily possible with the limitation that o= lder versions do not have security fixes. Yes, but of what help is a securi= ty fix if there is no running port for the fix? >> >> I feel like I'm missing something. =A0Why would you ever want to go back >> to an old version of the ports tree? =A0You're ignoring tons of security >> issues! >> >> And if a port build is broken then the maintainer needs to fix it, that >> is the solution. >> >> I must be missing something else here, it just seems like the underlying >> "need" for this is misguided (and dangerous from a security perspective)= . > > yes, you miss a very simple thing. Updated this morning your ports tree. = Your client asks for something for Monday morning for which you need now a = program which needs some kind of PNG but you did not install it. > > Do you have a machine that is fast enough to upgrade all your ports and s= till finish what your client needs Monday morning? > > The ports tree is not broken as such. Only the installation gets broken i= n some sense. Have a version number there would allow people to go back to = the last known working ports tree, install the software - or whatever has t= o be done - with a working system. > > Of course, the next step will be an upgrade. But only after the work whic= h brings in the money is done. > > You do not face this problem on Windows. You can run a 10 year old 'kerne= l' and still install modern software. > > Erich > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-current-unsubscribe@freebsd.org= " I am not currently using FreeBSD because I am transient, two laptops and only one works, not able to set up a FreeBSD system- using Linux.