From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jan 15 4:30:30 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9718537B401; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 04:30:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from weenix.guru.org (weenix.guru.org [24.199.153.98]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8986743ED8; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 04:30:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kmitch@guru.org) Received: from guru.org (rtp-isp-nat1.cisco.com [64.102.254.33]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-MD5 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by weenix.guru.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C541C327BF; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 07:30:16 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3E255457.7010602@guru.org> Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 07:30:15 -0500 From: Keith Mitchell User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.0.2) Gecko/20021120 Netscape/7.01 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "randall s. ehren" Cc: freebsd-hardware , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, sos@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ATA problems (still) References: <20030110142540.GA1179@weenix.guru.org> <3E1EF140.4060704@ucsb.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I just tried swapping one of the seagate drives with the WD ATA6 drive so that the WD was aatached to the same motherboard and cable where the segate was happily working and the segate was attached to the same motherboard and cable where the WD wasn't happily working. And the result was the same... the seagte is still happily working and the WD drive is crashing the same as it was before. randall s. ehren wrote: > have you tried the "WD 180GB hard drive (2MB cache -- non-special > edition)" in one of the machines with identical hardware? i had a WD > 120 gig drive that reported a S.M.A.R.T. error in one machine, but not > any other, even if i attached it to an IDE controller - ended up the > motherboard was just faulty. > > -randall > > > Keith Mitchell wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> Back in October, I sent out an email with respect to problems I have >> been >> having with my 4.7 based FreeBSD system since I swapped out the SCSI >> drives >> for a large capacity IDE drive. I never got much help with that request >> so I am reposting with some additional information I have collected >> since >> then. >> >> My system is currently running FreeBSD 4.7-STABLE from Dec 4. The >> system is >> a ASUS TUSL2-C motherboard with a Pentium III-1.133ghz. This >> motherboard >> has the Intel ICH2 chipset on it for the IDE controller. >> >> I purchased a WD 180GB hard drive (2MB cache -- non-special edition): >> >> ATA/ATAPI revision 6 >> device model WDC WD1800BB-00DAA0 >> serial number WD-WMACK1027562 >> firmware revision 63.13F63 >> cylinders 16383 >> heads 16 >> sectors/track 63 >> lba supported 268435455 sectors >> lba48 supported 351651888 sectors >> dma supported >> overlap not supported >> >> Feature Support Enable Value Vendor >> write cache yes yes >> read ahead yes yes >> dma queued no no 0/00 >> SMART yes yes >> microcode download yes yes >> security yes yes >> power management yes yes >> advanced power management no no 0/00 >> automatic acoustic management yes no 254/FE 128/80 >> >> >> At first, I attached this to the onboard ICH2-based controller and I was >> seeing hard hangs about every 1-2 days that required a power-off to >> correct. >> On the console I would see: >> >> ad4: READ command timeout tag=0 serv=0 - resetting >> something about removing the drive from the config >> >> then the system slowly grinded to a halt. If I just hit the reset >> button >> then the system will not find the hard drive on the reboot. I have >> to hit >> the power button to make it find the hard drive again. >> >> The hard drive also came with a "free" ATA100 controller made by promise >> that supoported the ATA6 command-set so I then tried this controller: >> >> atapci0: port >> 0xb400-0xb40f,0xb800-0xb803,0xd000-0xd007,0xd400-0xd403,0xd800-0xd807 >> mem 0xf3800000-0xf3803fff irq 9 at device 10.0 on pci2 >> >> With this controller the system lasts longer than 1-2 days but still >> crashes >> in the same way after about 1 week. >> >> In the original setup (on the onboard controller) I had the hard >> drive on >> channel 0 configured as an only drive and had an LS-120 and DVD-ROM >> on channel >> 1. When I moved the hard drive over to the Promise PCI card, I left the >> LS-120 and CD-ROM drive on the onbaord controller and moved only the >> hard >> drive. >> >> Next, I tried swapping out the hard drive for a another one. This >> one was >> a WD 200GB special edition (8MB cache): >> >> ATA/ATAPI revision 6 >> device model WDC WD2000JB-00DUA0 >> serial number WD-WMACK1058547 >> firmware revision 63.13F63 >> cylinders 16383 >> heads 16 >> sectors/track 63 >> lba supported 268435455 sectors >> lba48 supported 390721968 sectors >> dma supported >> overlap not supported >> >> Feature Support Enable Value Vendor >> write cache yes yes >> read ahead yes yes >> dma queued no no 0/00 >> SMART yes no >> microcode download yes yes >> security yes no >> power management yes yes >> advanced power management no no 0/00 >> automatic acoustic management yes no 254/FE 128/80 >> >> >> With this drive I tried both controllers as above and got the same >> results. >> >> Then i saw some thread about how bad cables could potentially contribute >> to this problem so I tried three different "new" cables I had. None >> of these >> worked either so I went to the local computer parts store and >> purchased a >> ATA100/ATA133 cable and that didn't work either. >> >> So then I tried disable DMA, tags, etc: >> >> hw.ata.ata_dma: 0 >> hw.ata.wc: 0 >> hw.ata.tags: 0 >> hw.ata.atapi_dma: 0 >> >> This still didn't work. >> >> I should also mention that I have two other FreeBSD boxes here with >> similar >> configurations to this box (same mb, same processor) but use a Seagate >> ATAV drive. Both of those systems work fine. So I'm not sure if the >> problem has something to do with the WD drives or if it has something to >> do with the ATA6 support (for larger than 137GB hard drives). >> >> For reference the info on the two segate drives (both of these are >> configured >> as master drives on chanell 0 of the onboard controller -- like wise a >> LS-120 and CD-ROM/DVD-ROM are on channel 1) in their respective >> computers: >> >> ATA/ATAPI revision 5 >> device model ST360021A >> serial number 3HR02PJF >> firmware revision 3.05 >> cylinders 16383 >> heads 16 >> sectors/track 63 >> lba supported 117231408 sectors >> lba48 not supported dma supported >> overlap not supported >> >> Feature Support Enable Value Vendor >> write cache yes yes >> read ahead yes yes >> dma queued no no 0/00 >> SMART yes no >> microcode download yes yes >> security yes no >> power management yes yes >> advanced power management no no 65278/FEFE >> automatic acoustic management yes yes 128/80 128/80 >> >> >> >> ATA/ATAPI revision 5 >> device model ST340016A >> serial number 3HS031PZ >> firmware revision 3.05 >> cylinders 16383 >> heads 16 >> sectors/track 63 >> lba supported 78165360 sectors >> lba48 not supported dma supported >> overlap not supported >> >> Feature Support Enable Value Vendor >> write cache yes yes >> read ahead yes yes >> dma queued no no 0/00 >> SMART yes no >> microcode download yes yes >> security yes no >> power management yes yes >> advanced power management no no 65278/FEFE >> automatic acoustic management yes yes 128/80 128/80 >> >> >> When I took the 180GB out of the FreeBSD box and replace it with the >> 200GB >> drive, I put the 180GB drive in my Mac and it has been working >> flawlessly >> over there since the middle of november. >> >> Has anyone had any luck with large hard drives or these WD drives? I >> can't >> think of anything else to try. >> > -- Keith Mitchell Email: kmitch@guru.org PGP key available upon request To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message