From owner-freebsd-chat Thu Apr 15 23:18:29 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from ontario.mooseriver.com (ontario.mooseriver.com [208.138.31.116]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B47E614E44 for ; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 23:18:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jgrosch@ontario.mooseriver.com) Received: (from jgrosch@localhost) by ontario.mooseriver.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id XAA47380; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 23:14:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jgrosch) Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 23:14:13 -0700 From: Josef Grosch To: Amancio Hasty Cc: jgrosch@MooseRiver.com, Brett Glass , chris@calldei.com, "Daniel O'Connor" , chat@FreeBSD.ORG, crh@outpost.co.nz Subject: Re: Jordan the Confused (Was: Jordan The Evil!) Message-ID: <19990415231413.A47332@ontario.mooseriver.com> Reply-To: jgrosch@MooseRiver.com References: <19990415224102.A47059@ontario.mooseriver.com> <199904160601.XAA88836@rah.star-gate.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.3i In-Reply-To: <199904160601.XAA88836@rah.star-gate.com>; from Amancio Hasty on Thu, Apr 15, 1999 at 11:01:51PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Apr 15, 1999 at 11:01:51PM -0700, Amancio Hasty wrote: > > No one is stoping you from writing the tools needed to make FreeBSD a > > "desktop-oriented" system. Just as no one is stoping you from writing a > > FreeBSD emulator for Linux which, if I remember right, was you last > > obsession. If you feel that there are things missing from FreeBSD you need > > to go and build them. > > Actually, a better question is why are people not writing applications? > Is it because they lack the programming skills, inefficient tools, > targetted goals, etc... Finally an intelligent question. Thank you! I don't think it is a lack of programming skills. I have written both device drivers and accounting packages. Let me tell you, a device driver is a lot harder to write but accounting packages are just boring. I mean, how many different ways can you think of to calculate a payroll check? I think we have the tools to do just about anything you could think of. I think the problem is a lot of FreeBSD people want to be kernel hackers and don't want to get their hands dirty with double-entry bookkeeping, warehouse, order-entry, or assent management systems. There is just not a lot of glory in the hacker world for these kinds of programs. Josef -- Josef Grosch | Another day closer to a | FreeBSD 3.1 jgrosch@MooseRiver.com | Micro$oft free world | UNIX for the masses To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message