From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 9 05:32:09 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B165F16A4CE for ; Tue, 9 Mar 2004 05:32:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from apollo.laserfence.net (apollo.laserfence.net [196.44.69.138]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A71843D31 for ; Tue, 9 Mar 2004 05:32:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from will@unfoldings.net) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=localhost) by apollo.laserfence.net with esmtp (Exim 4.24; FreeBSD) id 1B0hKt-0001Jb-HH; Tue, 09 Mar 2004 15:31:55 +0200 Received: from apollo.laserfence.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (apollo.laserfence.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 03513-09; Tue, 9 Mar 2004 15:29:07 +0200 (SAST) Received: from [192.168.255.1] (helo=prometheus.home.laserfence.net) by apollo.laserfence.net with esmtp (Exim 4.24; FreeBSD) id 1B0hI7-0001Io-K1; Tue, 09 Mar 2004 15:29:05 +0200 Received: from phoenix.home.laserfence.net ([192.168.0.2]) by prometheus.home.laserfence.net with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 1B0hI2-000FEW-00; Tue, 09 Mar 2004 15:28:58 +0200 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=localhost.home.laserfence.net) by phoenix.home.laserfence.net with esmtp (Exim 4.30; FreeBSD) id 1B0hIM-0001wn-FK; Tue, 09 Mar 2004 15:29:18 +0200 From: Willie Viljoen To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2004 15:29:14 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.6 References: <20040308210331.CDPV20549.tomts14-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp.bellnexxia.net> <20040309151222.B68396@haldjas.folklore.ee> In-Reply-To: <20040309151222.B68396@haldjas.folklore.ee> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200403091529.14762.will@unfoldings.net> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at laserfence.net Subject: Re: Desktop FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2004 13:32:09 -0000 On Tuesday 09 March 2004 15:13, someone, possibly Narvi, wrote: > On Mon, 8 Mar 2004 dashevil@sympatico.ca wrote: > > I am against Joe Sixpack using FreeBSD. The reason I would argue for a > > 8-( > > so you would freebsd always be a fringe os? It's not a fringe OS anyway. Why does an OS have to be used by Joe Schmo and Harry Desktop in order to be a mainstream OS? Computer don't just come in desktops you know, some of us actually like using them for servers. As far as its use in the server market goes, FreeBSD, IMHO, has Windows and Linux well and truly outgunned. Together with NetBSD and OpenBSD, the *BSD family infact, is in many cases considered and used as a viable alternative to Solaris. That's what KDE and GNOME are for, to add desktops to UNIX operating systems, the operative word being "add". UNIXes were never meant to be desktops. Adding a desktop to a UNIX is a great idea as it opens up UNIX to a new market, but that's still no case for turning UNIX itself into a desktop system. If that happens, FreeBSD would probably lose out all the market share it has built up in the server market, since nobody wants to install a 300MB GUI in a thin server. Please, before you write off an OS, consider all possible uses for it. If you must, atleast rephrase and call it a "fringe desktop." If being useful for one specific thing is all we can classify an OS's worth by, then let's turn it around and look at the server market, then by your argument, Windows becomes a fringe OS :-) Will -- Willie Viljoen Freelance IT Consultant 214 Paul Kruger Avenue Universitas 9321 South Africa +27 (51) 522 15 60 +27 (82) 404 03 27 will@unfoldings.net