From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Jan 28 13:03:46 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01EC114B3605 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2019 13:03:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp.rcn.com (smtp.rcn.com [69.168.97.78]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1D88E8B19B for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2019 13:03:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=rcn.com; s=20180516; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@rcn.com; t=1548680623; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=Hnw9C39cQafBGS0ZP2FjunC9AaM=; b=OmQ/O4agIuscJQzxQN9m+vbuii86tFgfXpvd/L9TxmMd3FwSIa07sLHvzJewnLPt CuXNlPlB/1T1dwgPTVsYF7cXhLODfMZL2TViG2NTxgU6U2XoO5nU8NokEhk6vrFu 88GYc1T771poab6OPGLFu1H9ba24kV0RmC9zOkitgRjjDOgctitF4Cotn/svsyRC Ep2qg8/gQqanfIGHR8LTm9RY0O9xxMSmasTimeNWIyBI5HECXhYbiD/uhyPbFHpF GbRX5Vye9ToeAzD9JuCyCXt5wSwhA34+LKQqOVbHVcO3E8kgIUK0kyg/mNJMU6o+ LqHu4yIh8EGU2Eu+9RxV2g==; X_CMAE_Category: , , X-CNFS-Analysis: v=2.2 cv=V5Q/6qvi c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=9TgA2UwI6Wy+6BV4wQM/cQ==:117 a=9TgA2UwI6Wy+6BV4wQM/cQ==:17 a=KGjhK52YXX0A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=XRQyMpdBKAEA:10 a=3JhidrIBZZsA:10 a=48faUk6PgeAA:10 a=077ptqBGmFz8F-gl1KMA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine X-Authed-Username: cm9iZXJ0aHVmZkByY24uY29t Authentication-Results: smtp01.rcn.cmh.synacor.com smtp.mail=roberthuff@rcn.com; spf=softfail; sender-id=softfail Authentication-Results: smtp01.rcn.cmh.synacor.com smtp.user=roberthuff; auth=pass (PLAIN) Received: from [209.6.230.48] ([209.6.230.48:58526] helo=jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) by smtp.rcn.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.6.25.56547 r(Core:3.6.25.0)) with ESMTPSA (cipher=AES256-GCM-SHA384) id 95/FC-33539-FADFE4C5; Mon, 28 Jan 2019 08:03:43 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <23630.64970.365320.231106@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2019 08:04:10 -0500 From: Robert Huff To: Matthew Seaman Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Wireless interface In-Reply-To: References: <20190126213957.adfeb61c.freebsd@edvax.de> <5C4CE8B8.4030608@gmail.com> <20190127013705.3e8cd5f3.freebsd@edvax.de> X-Mailer: VM 8.2.0b under 26.1 (amd64-portbld-freebsd13.0) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 1D88E8B19B X-Spamd-Bar: ------- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=rcn.com header.s=20180516 header.b=OmQ/O4ag; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=rcn.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of roberthuff@rcn.com designates 69.168.97.78 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=roberthuff@rcn.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-7.98 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[rcn.com:s=20180516]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[78.97.168.69.rep.mailspike.net : 127.0.0.17]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:69.168.97.0/24]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; DWL_DNSWL_LOW(-1.00)[rcn.com.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.1]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: mx.rcn.com]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[rcn.com:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.93)[-0.933,0]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[rcn.com,none]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; IP_SCORE(-2.94)[ip: (-9.35), ipnet: 69.168.97.0/24(-4.52), asn: 36271(-0.75), country: US(-0.08)]; ASN(0.00)[asn:36271, ipnet:69.168.97.0/24, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[78.97.168.69.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.1] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2019 13:03:46 -0000 Matthew Seaman writes: > Actually, the project is struggling with a lack of information > about its userbase. If you're trying to make decisions about the > lifecycle of support for a particular device it certainly helps to > have an idea about how many people are using it. Are steps being taken to address this? If so, how do I make my information available? > As for whether stock FreeBSD contains backdoors or spyware -- I'm > pretty sure it doesn't, but there are no absolute guarantees. I am told Dennis Ritchie once posed this at a conference: Proove, conclusively, the original C compiler - distributed in binary form - didn't contain an adapting, self-propagating, and self-concealing virus that has infected every executable compiled with that executable, including descendant compilers, /ad infinitum/. Last I heard no one had done so. I'd be happy to be prooved wrong. Respectfully, Robert Huff