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From: Maxim Konovalov <maxim.konovalov@gmail.com>
To: Igor Mozolevsky <igor@hybrid-lab.co.uk>
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On Wed, 18 Apr 2018, 12:47+0100, Igor Mozolevsky wrote:

> On 18 April 2018 at 09:07, Maxim Konovalov <maxim.konovalov@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Does this belong to -hackers@ really?
>
> In "popular" culture `hacker' === `cracker,' and not a hacker in its
> original/traditional sense as in a `skilled coder'.
>
Igor, I know that very well, thanks.

Let me re-phrase the initial question: can we keep freebsd lists out
of government propaganda both US, Russia or whatever state -sponsored.

I was under impression there was number of other tools like popural
social networks and sites invented for that.

Thanks,

Maxim

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Maxim Konovalov