From owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 22 12:42:21 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-www@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F50D37B401; Sun, 22 Jun 2003 12:42:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from baerenklau.de.freebsd.org (baerenklau.de.freebsd.org [195.185.195.14]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4856E43FAF; Sun, 22 Jun 2003 12:42:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wosch@panke.de.FreeBSD.org) Received: from baerenklau.de.freebsd.org (localhost.de.freebsd.org [127.0.0.1])h5MJgHCx005766; Sun, 22 Jun 2003 21:42:17 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from uucp@localhost)h5MJgHEu005765; Sun, 22 Jun 2003 21:42:17 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from wosch@localhost) by paula.panke.de.freebsd.org (8.12.9/8.12.6) id h5MJf2HN001240; Sun, 22 Jun 2003 21:41:02 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wosch) Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2003 21:41:01 +0200 From: Wolfram Schneider To: Tilman Linneweh , Poul-Henning Kamp Message-ID: <20030622214101.B1054@paula.panke.de.freebsd.org> References: <7672.1056098529@critter.freebsd.dk> <20030622205952.A463@paula.panke.de.freebsd.org> <20030622191054.GA42499@huckfinn.arved.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20030622191054.GA42499@huckfinn.arved.de>; from tilman@arved.de on Sun, Jun 22, 2003 at 09:10:54PM +0200 cc: www@freebsd.org Subject: Re: release usage statistics... X-BeenThere: freebsd-www@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Project Webmasters List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2003 19:42:22 -0000 On 2003-06-22 21:10:54 +0200, Tilman Linneweh wrote: > * Wolfram Schneider [So, 22 Jun 2003 at 21:02 GMT]: > >> > >> I find it hard to belive that 5.x is not used... > >> > >> for instance: > >> http://www.freebsd.org/statistic/release_usage/2003/2003-06-18 > > > > the release usage statistic use the data from the > > www.freebsd.org log file (field User Agent). > > > > There are some problems with this basic approach: > > > > 1) browsers with a faked user agent, e.g. Opera > > 2) browsers in linux emulation send Linux as OS, e.g. > > Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i386) > > 3) since some month Mozilla no nonger send the Version of FreeBSD, > > only the OS and the hardware platform: "FreeBSD i386" > > > > Point 3) is the biggest problem, because most users use Mozilla and > > fewer and fewer people use Netscape 4.x ... The release statistic is now > > useless - it is a statistic about die hard Netscape 4.x users > > running old FreeBSD releases. > > > > 127.0.0.1 - - [22/Jun/2003:21:05:37 +0200] "GET / HTTP/1.1" 200 307 "-" "Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; Konqueror/3.1; FreeBSD 5.1-BETA; X11; i386; de, de_DE, de_DE.ISO8859-15)" > > All 5.x users should start using Konqueror :-) > > (At least for browing FreeBSD.org) Hm, Konqueror use a different UserAgent format ;-/ I just fixed the statistic tool, you will see it on the web site next morning. The results for the last 10 days are: hits % release 1. 8566 25.07 FreeBSD 4.8-RELEASE 2. 6563 19.21 FreeBSD 5.1-RELEASE 3. 3950 11.56 FreeBSD 5.0-RELEASE 4. 3036 8.88 FreeBSD 4.8-STABLE 5. 3005 8.79 FreeBSD 4.7-RELEASE 6. 1232 3.61 FreeBSD 5.1-CURRENT 7. 1021 2.99 FreeBSD 4.5-RELEASE 8. 654 1.91 FreeBSD 4.2-RELEASE 9. 507 1.48 FreeBSD 4.7-STABLE 10. 439 1.28 FreeBSD 4.4-RELEASE -Wolfram -- Wolfram Schneider http://wolfram.schneider.org