Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 09:28:47 +1030 From: Greg Lehey <grog@lemis.com> To: Drew Baxter <netmonger@genesis.ispace.com>, Terry Lambert <tlambert@primenet.com>, Wes Peters <wes@softweyr.com> Cc: kkennawa@physics.adelaide.edu.au, advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD certified software (was: WordPerfect 8 for Linux) Message-ID: <19981028092847.A20920@freebie.lemis.com> In-Reply-To: <4.1.19981027175051.00ae3450@genesis.ispace.com>; from Drew Baxter on Tue, Oct 27, 1998 at 05:53:09PM -0500 References: <199810272218.PAA09099@usr04.primenet.com> <3635C799.A1998CDE@softweyr.com> <199810272218.PAA09099@usr04.primenet.com> <19981028091347.W20920@freebie.lemis.com> <4.1.19981027175051.00ae3450@genesis.ispace.com>
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On Tuesday, 27 October 1998 at 17:53:09 -0500, Drew Baxter wrote:
> At 09:13 AM 10/28/98 +1030, Greg Lehey wrote:
>> On Tuesday, 27 October 1998 at 22:18:21 +0000, Terry Lambert wrote:
>>>>> I'm up for testing Corel; can we get a logo designed? I don't think
>>>>> we need a lot of formal setup for this, perhaps just someone who can
>>>>> maintain the web page.
>>>>
>>>>> EXCELLENT idea! Yes, we should do this.
>>>>
>>>> I'm glad you think so. I'd mentioned this idea a couple of times
>>>> before, in this mailing list, and nobody even bothered to tell me
>>>> I'm stupid, let alone agree. I was beginning to feel like I was
>>>> shouting into a vacuum.
>>>
>>> I have an issue with the install process, and with "brandelf". I
>>> think this should be done transparently.
>>>
>>> I suspect this means providing a FreeBSD installer for the product,
>>> and trying to convince them to ship the installer with their
>>> software (most desirable), or provide it on their site (less
>>> desirable, since the program won't install "out of the box"
>>> that way).
>>
>> Good point. This would also include documentation on how to install
>> for FreeBSD, as well as any special things needed ("In order to run
>> YoyoFloop on your FreeBSD system, you must have installed the Linux
>> emulator"). But I don't think it should be a condition of
>> certification ("Certified at class 2 for use with FreeBSD" :-)
>
> Well one of the good things is, you could place the linux emulator onto the
> install media (if it was cd anyway) or any required software, namely the
> version that was the most recent (and known to work) with the product.
Yes, but is it known to work with the (unknown) version of FreeBSD the
user is running? I think this is probably a bad idea; a better one
would be an installer that checks for the presence of the emulator and
tells the user what to do if it can't fix it itself. For example, if
it finds the emulator lkm, it could load it; if it can't find the lkm,
it can check for the sources and compile it; if it can't find that, it
can check if there's a net connection to FreeBSD.org; if there isn't,
it gives up.
> What would be kinda cool would be a webboard (users helping users, or
> something like that) to take load off of the support services. At the same
> time, this would promote new products by adding them to the list (Oh I
> didn't know Quattro Pro was for FreeBSD! kinda thing)..
Well, yes, Wes suggested a web site in the original message of this
subthread. Are you thinking of more?
Greg
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