From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 17 09:31:34 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 607F016A402 for ; Thu, 17 May 2007 09:31:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter.schuller@infidyne.com) Received: from mxfep01.bredband.com (mxfep01.bredband.com [195.54.107.70]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A214813C448 for ; Thu, 17 May 2007 09:31:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter.schuller@infidyne.com) Received: from ironport.bredband.com ([195.54.107.82] [195.54.107.82]) by mxfep01.bredband.com with ESMTP id <20070517093122.UMDH28445.mxfep01.bredband.com@ironport.bredband.com> for ; Thu, 17 May 2007 11:31:22 +0200 Received: from c-5416e555.03-51-73746f3.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se (HELO scode.mine.nu) ([85.229.22.84]) by ironport.bredband.com with ESMTP; 17 May 2007 11:31:17 +0200 Received: from scode.mine.nu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by scode.mine.nu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57A4E155B3; Thu, 17 May 2007 11:30:11 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <464C2098.4050109@infidyne.com> Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 11:30:00 +0200 From: Peter Schuller User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.0 (X11/20070501) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Norberto Meijome References: <437646E3279CED649940FB48@utd59514.utdallas.edu> <20070516202735.GB97410@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <20070516205504.GD97410@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <20070517085201.73e347b3@localhost> In-Reply-To: <20070517085201.73e347b3@localhost> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig352FE5708F220DFA93BEBAB5" Cc: Roland Smith , FreeBSD Questions , Paul Schmehl Subject: Re: Best remote backup method? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 09:31:34 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig352FE5708F220DFA93BEBAB5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > Also, dump/restore allows you to use snapshots on a live filesystem (I = would > test it properly on a large FS with heavy activity).=20 But it's worth pointing out that this is fully possibly with any backup tool - just run mksnap_ffs and backup a mounted snapshot. I do this with rdiff-backup for example. > Now, if you are worried about "backing up the whole filesystem"...well,= just > tell dump not to dump it :) >=20 > man chflags (in particular, the nodump flag) > man dump (in particular, -h ) The problem with this is for me two-fold: (1) It's a global property. I can't take different backups that include/exclude different things. (2) I can't easily express "backup /usr/var/db/my-important-database" without seting "nodump" on a bunch of stuff except that. In other words, I want exclude by default, while dump and the chflags system provides include by default. That said I do like dump's integration with snapshots and overall coherent feeling. If backup diskspace and bandwidth was not a concern I'd use it. --=20 / Peter Schuller PGP userID: 0xE9758B7D or 'Peter Schuller ' Key retrieval: Send an E-Mail to getpgpkey@scode.org E-Mail: peter.schuller@infidyne.com Web: http://www.scode.org --------------enig352FE5708F220DFA93BEBAB5 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.3 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGTCCiDNor2+l1i30RCG2vAKDWrLCKicAjgQI2Dd6HeWYIrd8fLwCeMu7D 5lNEm9gUoNO+p4mRN2YqF0w= =d4u3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig352FE5708F220DFA93BEBAB5--