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Date:      Thu, 31 Dec 1998 16:19:35 -0500 (EST)
From:      Chuck Robey <chuckr@mat.net>
To:        "Jonathan M. Bresler" <jmb@FreeBSD.ORG>
Cc:        alexandr@mail.eecis.udel.edu, dcs@newsguy.com, committers@FreeBSD.ORG, current@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: HEADS UP: Postfix is coming. new uid, gid required.
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.4.05.9812311612510.335-100000@picnic.mat.net>
In-Reply-To: <199812311832.KAA01002@hub.freebsd.org>

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On Thu, 31 Dec 1998, Jonathan M. Bresler wrote:

> > Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 10:07:32 -0800 (PST)
> > From: alexandr@mail.eecis.udel.edu
> > 
> > However, here's my real bone of contention.  The FreeBSD project has
> 
>   at last!

Don't cheer too much, I think he's just going to change his story.  He
basically wants to dismember lots of the FreeBSD tree, and this is just
a convenient excuse.

One thing does kinda get me, tho.  IBM, like Sun, has made several moves
recently that have been friendly to open software.  I'm not saying
they're giving the store away, but things have changed at IBM since the
80's, and I don't think he's noticed it.

> > I swear, it's almost like we've become victims of IBM's marketing
> > machine.

Jikes is just one of a hoard of software that IBM has been making
public.  All companies that do that should be clearly cheered for it,
not taken to task because they're not totally perfect, nor because of
rather poor, decade-old records.

Times are changing, and IBM is not the boogie-man they used to be.  You
honestly ought to web-surf the IBM site, all the free and technically
extremely interesting stuff there will take a good long while to read
through.

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