From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 28 09:43:07 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2322106566B for ; Mon, 28 Sep 2009 09:43:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kraduk@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f222.google.com (mail-fx0-f222.google.com [209.85.220.222]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21CCE8FC08 for ; Mon, 28 Sep 2009 09:43:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm22 with SMTP id 22so3859610fxm.36 for ; Mon, 28 Sep 2009 02:43:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=SI1AMgO6Jb6eMqQB8E44uap4ar4Nwk4YrVaT651iQIw=; b=rG4ilXvdxK1MHDW1uLRhyaFwS1C0Cc+fAJtjJVFiAWwsqthngsDp9Mk/zXr2LsZkx3 dvjzqeHJ4ICiGKwVOlqiWn6a7z7nfV4yi/axJVbv+NdcbN17MSpR1jb0RBIYLvDMrugB 6WAEEtIhk1jYDzY8eZoAkqZYZaZ774l6cvQyA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=NFXeSgBbrIgY+9wDoE5+vbecC6cC4sUTRlY8MgOIIZT7s4aPjtqJ+rG2KWBiuFr0N5 vK6ZbEE5bH5MDMV0hDrZaT6GrNLsFWtcib9+/S2U+rJ1Fpk/DXoCGu7KI43m7zQUYpp6 IB3xSPEAfIzHlIl8VREjcS5yT83qZgLiObK+c= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.154.10 with SMTP id b10mr253263hbc.198.1254130985856; Mon, 28 Sep 2009 02:43:05 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20090928013436.D04F9BE4C@kev.msw.wpafb.af.mil> References: <721122.91358.qm@web56206.mail.re3.yahoo.com> <20090928013436.D04F9BE4C@kev.msw.wpafb.af.mil> Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 10:43:05 +0100 Message-ID: From: krad To: vogelke+unix@pobox.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Whic mail server? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 09:43:07 -0000 2009/9/28 Karl Vogel > > >> On Sun, 27 Sep 2009 06:01:22 -0700 (PDT), > >> Aflatoon Aflatooni said: > > A> I am running a server that is acting as the mail server for only > A> internal users (about 50 users). Currently we are running Sendmail... > > First things first: if you're happy with Sendmail and your system works > to your satisfaction, I'd leave it be. Just watch your logs and keep an > eye out for security patches. > > A> I am wondering if qmail is thought to be better than sendmail. > > There are fanboys on all three sides of that question ("yes", "no", and > "qmail bites, use this-other-MTA instead"). I switched from sendmail to > qmail on a server because I had an odd corner case that qmail happened > to handle just about perfectly. I also botched a qmail install on my > own workstation, didn't feel like finding out what I did wrong, and > decided to install Postfix instead. > > I've had fine experiences with both qmail and Postfix. If you're > using a system that's a little under-powered, you might appreciate Dr. > Bernstein's efforts to make qmail and its supporting tools *very* frugal > with OS resources. If you're used to the sendmail way of doing things, > you'd probably be better off with Postfix. > > I like Dr. Bernstein's programming approach, but be prepared to spend > time getting used to his way of setting up network daemons, etc. It's > internally consistent but *very* different. It takes me 30-40 minutes > to install all of the qmail stuff from source because I've done it at > least 6 or 7 times; I could probably cut that in half if I didn't save > build and installation outputs for my logs. My first time took most of > a weekend to figure out what was going on. > > A> Any suggestions on spam filters like spam-assassin? > > I tried SA a few years ago, and it was a little heavy-weight for my > filtering needs. I use a simple Bayesian filter (ifile) trained on > around 100,000 spams plus some procmail rules, and I get along fine. > Your mileage will vary. I saw some other comments: > > >> Qmail is not, nor has it been, actively supported for years. > > Depends on what you mean by support. The user community is very active; > have a look at http://www.ornl.gov/lists/mailing-lists/qmail/ if you > doubt it. OTOH, said community can be a bit, um, brusque, but the Qmail > Handbook and the "Life with Qmail" webpage filled in the blanks for me. > > >> Qmail has a very limited set of features... > > It's intended to handle one problem well, which it does. If you have > some other requirements, http://www.qmail.org/ probably has a plugin > that will do what you want. > > OK, now let's settle which text editor is best. > > -- > Karl Vogel I don't speak for the USAF or my company > They say marriages are made in heaven. So is thunder and lightning. > --Clint Eastwood > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > exim is worth a look, it scales very well and is fairly easy to understand. I also has a very powerful acl language for filtering and plugs directly into lots of av/anti spam stuff