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Date:      Wed, 15 Jul 1998 14:57:30 -0400 (EDT)
From:      Mikhail Teterin <mi@video-collage.com>
To:        chat@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Stopping the bloody cross posting.
Message-ID:  <199807151857.OAA14104@xxx.video-collage.com>
In-Reply-To: <19980715122529.C18373@zappo> from Tim Vanderhoek at "Jul 15, 98 12:25:29 pm"

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Tim Vanderhoek once stated:

=> lists are handled by the same server. This header will also contain only
=> "official" list names, for your convinience.

=For your convenience, all messages contain a Message-id: header.  Now,
=with great confidence and shutzpah, I urge you, please, use it!

Mail coming from decent servers will have it. I count hub as one...

=I don't own my own domain and can't create email addresses at will.

Mm. Indeed. Well, right now, majordomo has a per-user option of mailing
a message to its sender. A similar option can be introduced to allow for
per-user configuration of what to do with user on multiple lists handled
by the same machine. The default values of that option for a new user
can be left to the list's maintainer.

=> =Finally, those headers are not altogether reliable.
=> 
=> Well, I'm not sure what you mean by this.

=Look at the headers to this message.  It was also sent to -chat, but
=you don't see that in the To: or Cc:.

Weird, I admit, unless you did this on purpose (through Bcc, or smth)...

=> It is a _problem_ only when it's rampant. But it is always an anoyance.

=I can think of many things that are annoyances, or potential
=annoyances...

Absolutely, but this one just recently came up...

=And this is one of them: people who have to (repeately) ask "Please
=Cc: me your answer."  With proper -list policy such requests are not
=necessary.

They are if the person asking is not subscribed to the list...

=[And yes, majordomo removed it...it was only a temporary snafu on
=jmb's part, though...otoh, it was well-timed]

It looks like a special header a-la Newsgroups: (X-MalingLists) is needed.
Which reminds one, that the whole mailing lists structure has overgrown
itself and should be converted to Usenet newsgroups ASAP (moderated and
robo-moderated).

	-mi

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