From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 13 23:53:36 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5A3F16A4CE for ; Tue, 13 Jan 2004 23:53:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from web14611.mail.yahoo.com (web14611.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.173.218]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4AF1443D1D for ; Tue, 13 Jan 2004 23:53:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from plageotakes@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20040114075335.21841.qmail@web14611.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [68.164.6.243] by web14611.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 13 Jan 2004 23:53:35 PST Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 23:53:35 -0800 (PST) From: peter lageotakes To: "Matthew D. Fuller" , freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20040113221936.GJ41788@over-yonder.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Re: (FreeBSD) for Linux Users X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 07:53:36 -0000 --- "Matthew D. Fuller" wrote: > I've long been tossing around the idea of writing a > "BSD for Linux Users" > sort of essay. I wanted to approach it, not from > the direction of > building a laundry list of command correspondences > and differences like > that, but rather by describing some of the design > philosophy and > methodology that cause the differences. My theory > is that once you > understand those foundations, the upper-level > differences are both easier > to figure out, and make more sense when you do > figure them out. > > I've had lots of it floating around my head, and > some bits and pieces > scratched out in text files floating around my > homedir. But I finally > took a weekend to sit down and try and pull it all > together. > > It's now on my webpage starting at > . > It's rather long (somewhere in the neighborhood of > 11,000 words), but I > think it's fairly readable. I'd be interested in > any feedback on it, > especially from Linux users anybody might know > who've had trouble > grasping the BSD Way(tm). > > > > -- > Matthew Fuller (MF4839) | > fullermd@over-yonder.net > Systems/Network Administrator | > http://www.over-yonder.net/~fullermd/ > > "The only reason I'm burning my candle at both ends, > is because I > haven't figured out how to light the middle > yet" > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-advocacy > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-advocacy-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" Please do not take offense about the statements below. 1) Adjust the color scheme. It makes it somewhat difficult to read though the site. 2) It is very critical of Linux users. Perhaps identifying the similarities between both operating systems, in that way new Linux users wont be put off or feel to distanced from BSD. Later on in the page contrast the differences between the two operating systems and show both strengths and weakness. 3) Remove personal bias 4) Deeper coverage on packages vs. ports with emphasis to portupgrade. You may want to consider comparing it to various Linux distro packaging system so that the new user can have a reference. 5) Remove "Chaos vs. Order". Your slamming a development model. Both models have merit (compare and contrast). 6) Remove the ego. IE: "BSD users are a bunch of elitist self-centered rude snobs." Yup. And proud of it. " You can be proud *BSD but ego isn't something that a new user want to get shoved in their face when they want to ask a question. Community support and great doc's are a huge plus to many users (FreeBSD has it). 7) Most important; be objective. IMHO, compare contrast in an objective manner and allow the person to make up their mind about *BSD. Set realistic expectations. PS: don't forget to mention that their is ~10,000 prog's in the ports collection. A huge bonus. I havent had a chance to go through the entire site. The above is just a prelim. observation. I applaud your work in the advocacy of *BSD. Please do not the above statements in a negative way. You do have great foundation to the site. I like the lay out and the index. One other thought, how about bumping up the Philosophy and myths up towards the top and dispel some of the preconceived notions about BSD. Pete ===== ESCape with VI. Cheese A La mode. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Hotjobs: Enter the "Signing Bonus" Sweepstakes http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/signingbonus