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Date:      Sun, 22 Dec 1996 22:14:55 -0700 (MST)
From:      Marc Slemko <marcs@znep.com>
To:        "Jordan K. Hubbard" <jkh@time.cdrom.com>
Cc:        freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: mailing list archives 
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.3.95.961222220505.13336C-100000@alive.ampr.ab.ca>
In-Reply-To: <4159.851316485@time.cdrom.com>

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On Sun, 22 Dec 1996, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote:

> Erm.  I wasn't exactly kidding about the idea of putting things into a
> simplistic database of some sort.  Since all *standard* storage
> formats suck, and since we have, from the very beginning, also been
> archiving this stuff without a whole heck of a lot of regard to how we
> might actually *use* the information, doesn't this suggest a new
> approach to the problem?

I think a database is a good idea and am even thinking about toying with
various different programs iff I get some data to work with.  However, I
can't name any standard database that would be useful to most people.  My
point is that I don't see any reason why the format it is stored in has to
be easily managable by the mystic "most people" because most people will
be accessing it via some frontend, likely web based, anyway.  The one big
file approach isn't necessarily any more or less managable than the lotsa
little file approach as long as the frontend (and storage behind it, etc.) 
that people use to access it can deal with it.

It is certainly true that the amount of data archived from the mailing
lists is reasonably small when looked at from a database person's
perspective.

> We archive all this mail just *in case* someone might use it, yet we
> make almost no provisions for really making it all that easy to search
> and view threads of discussion, nor do we provide a meaningful way of

The biggest thing I want right now is to be able to search on keywords
(just like the current web seach script does) but, once I find an article
I want, be able to look at the whole thread with one keystroke. 




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