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Date:      Mon, 6 May 2002 11:26:44 -0700
From:      JJ Behrens <jj@nttmcl.com>
To:        Terry Lambert <tlambert2@mindspring.com>, Dave Hayes <dave@jetcafe.org>, Brooks Davis <brooks@one-eyed-alien.net>, Michael Sierchio <kudzu@tenebras.com>, Drew Tomlinson <drew@mykitchentable.net>, bmah@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: organic documentation
Message-ID:  <20020506112644.A17574@alicia.nttmcl.com>
In-Reply-To: <3CD3273B.1D8F54F4@mindspring.com>; from tlambert2@mindspring.com on Fri, May 03, 2002 at 05:11:39PM -0700
References:  <20020503142917.H32803-100000@twirl.bitdance.com> <3CD3273B.1D8F54F4@mindspring.com>

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Well, I humbly submit that we should kill this thread :)

The original poster's question was easily solved by reading the handbook.
Furthermore, we have come to no concensus on improvements to the handbook (e.g.
wiki, etc.).  Hence, I propose we backburner this topic until a situation arises
where something like wiki turns out to be more helpful than just the handbook
alone.

My $0.02 :)
-jj

> "R. David Murray" wrote:
> > Sorry for dropping in to the middle of a conversation, but this
> > comment puzzles me.  I fail to see how:
> > 
> >   handbook + per-page comments from readers
> > 
> > is *inferior* to:
> > 
> >    handbook with no comments
> > 
> > given that the handbook maintainers do not have infinate time
> > to polish the handbook, nor infinate knowledge about the
> > quirks discoverd by the community.
> 
> 1)	Qualification of sources of information.  Not every
> 	commenting reader is adding something other than
> 	"First Post!  Nyah!".
> 
> 2)	Classification varies by individual; to present a
> 	coherent whole, not everyone can be an editor.  This
> 	is why published collections of works have editors:
> 	to apply a uniform standard.
> 
> 3)	Disinformatoin is not discernable from information.
> 
> Consider a dictionary created via a wiki:
> 
> o	Some people could order their entries by length, while
> 	others could order them alphabetically;
> 
> o	Is the Schlossen before or after the character "S",
> 	lexically?
> 
> o	Who checks the facts?
> 
> o	Copyright assignmnet (I guess you could "shrink wrap"
> 	this).
> 
> 
> > Good comments could be properly classified and incorporated into
> > the text as the maintainers have time.
> 
> So you need an editor.  I guess you are suggesting that they
> would be incorporated into the handbook itself?
> 
> 
> > On the other hand, I *can* see that it might be a non-trivial
> > project to integrate the documentation system with a web
> > comment system such that the two do not interfere with each other.
> 
> A web comment system will interfere.  It can't help it.

-- 
Users of C++ should consider hanging themselves rather than shooting their 
legs off--it's best not to use C++ simply as a better C.

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