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Date:      Wed, 3 Nov 2004 17:41:22 +0300
From:      Andrey Chernov <ache@nagual.pp.ru>
To:        Poul-Henning Kamp <phk@phk.freebsd.dk>, current@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Recent TTYDEF_LFLAG default change
Message-ID:  <20041103144122.GA34879@nagual.pp.ru>
In-Reply-To: <20041103112615.GA13218@nagual.pp.ru>
References:  <20041103111813.GB13047@nagual.pp.ru> <16246.1099480832@critter.freebsd.dk> <20041103112615.GA13218@nagual.pp.ru>

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On Wed, Nov 03, 2004 at 02:26:15PM +0300, Andrey Chernov wrote:
> > Most of it would be bogus I think, software should record the current
> > state and restore that, not mangle it with defaults.
> 
> Some tty/pty-emulators can (in spirit of screen). It is not ours, it is 
> common BSD thing. Better to not make surprises and harden porter's job 
> here, really, without a reason. Inside kernel you can do anything you want 
> using TTYDEF_LFLAG_NOECHO.

More such things: getty and getty-likes (i.e. fax recievers or FIDO gates 
combined with getty). BTW, what about our getty now? It uses TTYDEF_LFLAG.

Python tty module use TTYDEF_LFLAG too:
http://pydoc.org/1.5.2/tty.html

Moreover, it is few minutes results, I even don't try to search hard.

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