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Date:      Fri, 10 Mar 2000 20:00:13 -0600 (CST)
From:      Ryan Thompson <ryan@sasknow.com>
To:        Kazutaka YOKOTA <yokota@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp>
Cc:        freebsd-current@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Keyboard troubles 
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.4.21.0003101931290.8418-100000@ren.sasknow.com>
In-Reply-To: <200003110130.KAA10812@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp>

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Kazutaka YOKOTA wrote to Ryan Thompson:

> It sounds like the keyboard interface of your motherboard has somewhat
> become flaky; it may even be broken.
> 
> It is NOT recommended that you attach or detach the keyboard while the
> power is on.  The keyboard interface of the PC motherboard is not
> designed for hot-plugging/unplugging.  It is too easy to fry the
> keyboard interface and/or controller by doing so.

I don't make a habit of keyboard swapping, and I HAVE experienced some
minor glitches before (such as weird scan codes being sent, or the state
of caps lock changing).  In any case, though, a keyboard reset or even
just a few key presses would fix.  In the last 10 years, I have NEVER had
to reboot a system because they keyboard wasn't responding.

> Even if the keyboard interface survives hot-plugging, there is no
> assurance that the keyboard and the keyboard controller on the
> motherboard can communicate properly after hot-plugging; they are
> simply not designed to cope with such situation.
> 
> I personally know a couple of people who broke their motherboard this
> way.

Bummer for them..  Really, though, I would rather fry a $200 motherboard
than my $500CDN keyboard (my fingers have developed expensive tastes).  
:-)  None of my motherboard documentation warns agains swapping keyboards,
either.

In any case, I never had problems swapping keyboards between prior FreeBSD
releases, other UNIX platforms, Windows machines, DOS machines.  Hell,
even my old Nintendo never complained if you plugged in a different
controller while it was powered on.  :-)  I was just wondering if
something had been done to 4.0 that didn't handle this situation like
previous releases.

Thanks for the info.  When I have another $500 burning a hole in my
checkbook, I will probably order another keyboard, just so I have
another one, if nothing else. :-)

- Ryan

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