From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 26 02:02:39 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17F3E1065672 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 2009 02:02:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C84588FC15 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 2009 02:02:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-8-131.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.8.131]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2932E3CBF8; Fri, 26 Jun 2009 04:02:36 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n5Q22U7c004947; Fri, 26 Jun 2009 04:02:30 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 04:02:30 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Erich Dollansky Message-Id: <20090626040230.18f606b1.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <200906260955.50697.erich@apsara.com.sg> References: <4A430505.2020909@gmail.com> <200906260824.15069.erich@apsara.com.sg> <20090626030700.c68b690e.freebsd@edvax.de> <200906260955.50697.erich@apsara.com.sg> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: bf1783@googlemail.com, Manish Jain , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Erik Osterholm Subject: Re: The question of moving vi to /bin X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 02:02:39 -0000 On Fri, 26 Jun 2009 09:55:48 +0800, Erich Dollansky wrote: > this is not what I mean. I wanted to say, as long as the boot disk > come up, I also have /usr available when I have the space to have > it all on the same disk. I see. The fact that /usr isn't available after booting in maintenance mode (SUM) is often important for recovery purposes. The OS leaves it to the admin to take such important decisions. :-) > > The good thing about vi - yes, there is such a thing - is the > > fact that it even works completely under the weirdest > > circumstances, e. g. if you are on a terminal line that does > > not have cursor keys or function keys, then you can still > > use the full power of vi, as long as you know how to master > > it, but that's true for anything in the UNIX world. > > > Aren't all - or at least most - of the Unix editors like this? I think most of them are. But, for example, I don't think that the mcedit (Midnight Commander's editor) is very usable without cursor and function keys... > > > But isn't there emacs in the ports too? > > > > Sure, let's take emacs into the OS, as well as any other editor > > one could imagine. And because most people like graphical > > applications, let's include OpenOffice for editing > > configuration files in maintenance mode. :-) > > Yes, this is the idea of the ideas. > > But why don't we take Microsoft Word running under wine? > > I mean, if we strike, we should have a real strike. That's a very good suggestion. But let's take into mind that we do need the most advanced and modern MICROS~1 technology, so FreeBSD should include a pirated copy of "Windows 7" in order to run the latest and most expensive pirated copy of "Office", programmed in Java, running through "Flash". With music. And dancing puppies. If - then real. :-) -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ...