From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 17 02:36:13 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82D1316A4CE for ; Thu, 17 Jun 2004 02:36:13 +0000 (GMT) Received: from fed1rmmtao07.cox.net (fed1rmmtao07.cox.net [68.230.241.32]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 429FF43D5C for ; Thu, 17 Jun 2004 02:36:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mnavarre@cox.net) Received: from cox.net ([68.6.195.68]) by fed1rmmtao07.cox.net (InterMail vM.6.01.03.02 201-2131-111-104-20040324) with ESMTP id <20040617023611.LBBW17600.fed1rmmtao07.cox.net@cox.net>; Wed, 16 Jun 2004 22:36:11 -0400 Message-ID: <40D1039D.6040307@cox.net> Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2004 19:36:13 -0700 From: Matt Navarre User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.5 (Windows/20040207) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Lloyd Hayes References: <40CF4287.1060005@yahoo.com> <20040615201058.GA1116@gothmog.gr> <40CFF491.5030902@cox.net> <40D08F0B.3070402@yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <40D08F0B.3070402@yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD Commands X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2004 02:36:13 -0000 Lloyd Hayes wrote: > I agree with everything you've said here. I have considered a UNIX type > book. In fact I have looked at 'The Complete FreeBSD' book, but I > believe that your version is still the current version. Doubtful, mine's from 1997 and came with FreeBSD 2.2.5 on CD. I'm pretty sure there's a newer version :) > One thing. I > didn't have any idea that the line commands were much different from the > old CP/M commands. And what is really startling is the lack of > information about this to new people switching systems. Well, CP/M and Unix are just different. I can certainly see where it could be disorienting though. Here's a help site that has dos and VMS commands and their unix equivalents. http://unixhelp.ed.ac.uk/ I'm sure there's others. > > Anyway, I created a partition on my backup computer so that I could play > with FreeBSD and get used to it and see if I really liked it. From what > I had read and seen, FreeBSD had the features that I was looking for. My > worst case scenario is that I can't get a grip on this and stay with > Windows, which I really hate.... Understandable. > Or I could switch to a version of > Linux. Time is my most expensive commodity. This is an experiment for > me, and is the first time that I've used a non-Microsoft system in 10 > years. Most of the systems that I had used for the 15 years before that > were non-Microsoft systems. Me and William Gates have just never seen > eye-to-eye on software. You'd have the same problems with the Linux command line as FreeBSD, since they're basically the same at the user level. And spiffy GUI or no, you really need the command line for most of the admin tasks you'll need to do, since everything is configured with text files. Spend some time playing around and I'll bet you're up and running faster than you think. The unix learning curve is famously steep, but tends to climb in a lot of little "plateaus" as you learn stuff. It does take time, but I think it's worth the effort. > > I just glanced at the Gateway computer. No graphics desktop yet, but I > do have a graphic screen saver.... > > Lloyd Hayes > > Email: wyoming_antelope@yahoo.com > URL: http://TalkingStaff.bravehost.com E-FAX Number: (208) 248-6590 > Web Journal: http://lloyd_hayes.bravejournal.com/ > > -- "We all enter this world in the same way: naked, screaming, and soaked in blood. But if you live your life right, that kind of thing doesn't have to stop there." -- Dana Gould