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Date:      Sun, 28 Mar 1999 08:39:08 +0200
From:      Poul-Henning Kamp <phk@critter.freebsd.dk>
To:        Nate Williams <nate@mt.sri.com>
Cc:        Motoyuki Konno <motoyuki@FreeBSD.ORG>, NAKAGAWA Yoshihisa <y-nakaga@nwsl.mesh.ad.jp>, Philippe CASIDY <pcasidy@worldnet.fr>, freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Which LAN PCCARD for FreeBSD (no PAO!) 
Message-ID:  <15919.922603148@critter.freebsd.dk>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sat, 27 Mar 1999 21:30:09 PDT." <199903280430.VAA06189@mt.sri.com> 

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In message <199903280430.VAA06189@mt.sri.com>, Nate Williams writes:
>> > > > I would like to know which card works under FreeBSD 3.1R and FreeBSD
>> > > > 2.2.8R WITHOUT PAO!
>> > > 
>> > > Why? "plain FreeBSD"'s APM and PC-Card support is limitted and
>> > > buggy. You should be use PAO.
>> > 
>> > No no no.  You got it all wrong.  PAO support is buggy, FreeBSD APM is
>> > good, and PCCARD support is limited. :) :) :)
>> 
>> Why do you think "PAO support is buggy"?  Do you read the recent
>> PAO patch?  If you found bugs in PAO, please list up them.
>> 
>> I can not understand why you dislike PAO so much.
>
>Because the number of options/changes that it makes to the stock FreeBSD
>has often times in the past been wrong.  I can say that because many
>times in the past I found the real bugs in the FreeBSD code and fixed
>them, while PAO provides one, two, or three different 'workarounds' for
>the problem rather than trying to find the problem.

I can only support Nate here.

PAO is a great prototype. now we want to heed the excellent advice
Frederick P. Brooks gives in his book "The Mythical Man-Month"
(ISBN 0-201-83595-9) (p.116 ff):

Plan to build a prototype and plan to throw it away, you will anyhow.


--
Poul-Henning Kamp             FreeBSD coreteam member
phk@FreeBSD.ORG               "Real hackers run -current on their laptop."
FreeBSD -- It will take a long time before progress goes too far!


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