From owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 29 12:37:14 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9934D37B401; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 12:37:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (freebie.xs4all.nl [213.84.32.253]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1393F43F3F; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 12:37:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wkb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h6TJbCCE006712; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 21:37:12 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wkb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h6TJbCIB006711; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 21:37:12 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 21:37:12 +0200 From: Wilko Bulte To: Ruslan Ermilov Message-ID: <20030729193712.GF6508@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: <200307211915.h6LJFPJY054212@repoman.freebsd.org> <20030721214042.GA563@freebie.xs4all.nl> <3F1C6216.3020006@freebsd.org> <20030721220419.GA909@freebie.xs4all.nl> <3F1C6633.5070009@freebsd.org> <20030722070239.GA2687@freebie.xs4all.nl> <20030729191917.GA66399@sunbay.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030729191917.GA66399@sunbay.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-OS: FreeBSD 4.8-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org cc: re@FreeBSD.org cc: alpha@FreeBSD.org cc: Scott Long Subject: Re: Floppies for ALPHA X-BeenThere: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Alpha List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 19:37:15 -0000 On Tue, Jul 29, 2003 at 10:19:17PM +0300, Ruslan Ermilov wrote: > On Tue, Jul 22, 2003 at 09:02:39AM +0200, Wilko Bulte wrote: > > On Mon, Jul 21, 2003 at 04:16:19PM -0600, Scott Long wrote: > [...] > > > Is there an alternative for those in remote areas that can neither > > > download the miniiso nor buy the cd set? Every time that we talk about > > > downloading iso's, the issue comes up of those in eastern-bloc and > > > asian countries that have little bandwidth. Can Alpha do a 'boot-only' > > > cd image that is <5MB? > > > > Maybe. But you would need a lot of other stuff to make it useful as > > an installed system so why would the size of the boot'kit' be so important? > > I mean, you need the rest of the bits downloaded anyway to get a useful > > installation. > > > This is not the point IMO. The point is to have the miniboot.iso > that could be used to replace a floppy, something less than 5MB, 5 MB is quite small for Alpha I think. > with only kernel and MFS root on it (resembling the contents of > the "big" boot.flp floppy). Everything else would have to be > downloaded from the net (e.g., FTP), but that would not cost you > 236MB like it's currently for the miniinst.iso for 5.1/Alpha -- > the "base" distribution on FTP is only 47MB. Hm, yes. OK. > If there's some interest, I could add the support for generating > miniboot.iso to release/Makefile. This would be extremely > useful for other platforms too, including i386. Just let me > know if there's a strong interest in this. I think people would like that yes. -- | / o / /_ _ wkb@freebie.xs4all.nl |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte