From owner-freebsd-chat Tue Oct 23 6:21:38 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mongrel.pacific.net.au (mongrel.pacific.net.au [61.8.0.107]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2C3937B422 for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2001 06:21:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dungeon.home (ppp90.dyn248.pacific.net.au [203.143.248.90]) by mongrel.pacific.net.au (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id XAA18582; Tue, 23 Oct 2001 23:19:17 +1000 X-Authentication-Warning: mongrel.pacific.net.au: Host ppp90.dyn248.pacific.net.au [203.143.248.90] claimed to be dungeon.home Received: from dungeon.home (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dungeon.home (8.11.3/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f9NDMTf21954; Tue, 23 Oct 2001 23:22:29 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from mckay) Message-Id: <200110231322.f9NDMTf21954@dungeon.home> To: Brett Glass Cc: chat@freebsd.org, mckay@thehub.com.au Subject: Re: Islam (was: Religions (was Re: helping victims of terror)) References: <4.3.2.7.2.20011020213927.048a1780@localhost> <1003617187.3bd1fba3d31ff@webmail.neomedia.it> <1003617187.3bd1fba3d31ff@webmail.neomedia.it> <4.3.2.7.2.20011020213927.048a1780@localhost> <4.3.2.7.2.20011021172133.04293620@localhost> In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20011021172133.04293620@localhost> from Brett Glass at "Sun, 21 Oct 2001 17:24:29 -0600" Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 23:22:29 +1000 From: Stephen McKay Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sunday, 21st October 2001, Brett Glass wrote: >At 09:47 AM 10/21/2001, Stephen McKay wrote: > >>>Oh? And what "atrocities" have Jews "contined to commit" in the name >>>of their religion? >> >>Well, for a start, the Israeli Government's policy of assassinating >>Palestinians it doesn't like. > >Israel is doing no such thing. It is not "assassinating" Palestininans, >but rather appropriately going after terrorists that have killed innocent >people or are preparing to. Really? So, they arrest them, try them in a court of law (with appropriate witnesses, defense lawyers, and a jury of their peers), convict them, and sentence them to ... what? ... being sprayed with bullets in their car, or hit with a tank shell, possibly alongside anybody else who happened to be in the same building? I rather think they skip some "due process", and go straight to the spraying with bullets and lobbing of tank shells. It's the same as the other side does (except they can't afford tanks), and is not any sort of moral high ground. >And it's not being done in the name of religion. Israel is a secular state. Maybe so. But if so, you win the pedant award for this week. Stephen. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message