From owner-freebsd-chat Tue Mar 9 3: 5:55 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from shale.csir.co.za (shale.csir.co.za [146.64.46.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44E3C14D7F for ; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 03:05:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from reg@shale.csir.co.za) Received: (from reg@localhost) by shale.csir.co.za (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA77363; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 13:03:21 +0200 (SAT) (envelope-from reg) Date: Tue, 9 Mar 1999 13:03:20 +0200 From: Jeremy Lea To: Amancio Hasty Cc: Allen Campbell , tlambert@primenet.com, freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: A BSD-licensed GUI toolkit? Message-ID: <19990309130320.B324@shale.csir.co.za> References: <199903080109.SAA14975@bamboo.verinet.com> <199903080129.RAA04935@rah.star-gate.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.3i In-Reply-To: <199903080129.RAA04935@rah.star-gate.com>; from Amancio Hasty on Sun, Mar 07, 1999 at 05:29:14PM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, On Sun, Mar 07, 1999 at 05:29:14PM -0800, Amancio Hasty wrote: > Can you give us a reference for which Microsoft has given permission to > use style-sheets? http://www.news.com/News/Items/0,4,32110,00.html I can't find a link to the full letter. Not as rosy as it seems: "... any W3C member will be able to obtain a licence from Mircosoft ...". "... technology we submitted ...". They must be dreaming. As the W3C points out, the origional proposal came from CERN in 1994. (http://www.w3c.org/1999/02/Patent-Statement). The patent application was also from 1995, before W3C was a force to be reconed with, and when Microsoft was just warming up in it's actions to crush Netscape. The patent would, therefore, have been another crushing blow to Navigator. If I recall previous patent threads correctly, then Microsoft was one year's grace before the origional application date before prior art claims would be valid. That would still mean that the early work at CERN would get them. Not to mention DSSSL and other earlier proposals. However, this patent would be of no concern to a GUI toolkit, since it specifically applies to "an electronic publishing system", and "a page". Regards, -Jeremy -- | "Come home my prodigal son, come home and lets be one, --+-- don't want to see you cry, don't make me tell you why, | you've lived in a house with me, my blood has set you free, | in the world you'll surely die, nothing else will satisfy." -MIC To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message