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RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2020 14:47:09 -0000 On Thu, 9 Apr 2020 15:05:32 -0400 Ed Maste wrote: > Jim Salter has an article in Ars Technica discussing his experience > with FreeBSD 12.1 as a desktop: > https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2020/04/not-actually-linux-distro-review-freebsd-12-1-release/ > > There are some points in there that might involve misunderstanding, > but there are also a number of real issues raised about the experience > a new (or newish) desktop FreeBSD user will have. It will be a good > idea for us to examine these, and offer advice or corrections if > appropriate, and otherwise look how we can improve the FreeBSD > experience for new users. I think a Debian tasksel-like utility can be a key improvement (I could work on it) "Collection Software" [ ] FreeBSD desktop environment [ ] ... GNOME [ ] ... KDE [ ] ... XFCE [ ] Laptop [ ] ... Nvidia Optimus [ ] ... Intel drm-kmod [ ] Office and so on However, my installation is 2 years old, I don't know the current features of bsdinstall. Alfonso --- Alfonso S. Siciliano http://alfix.gitlab.io