From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 14 20:45:17 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AFD5106566C for ; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 20:45:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kc5vdj.freebsd@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yi0-f54.google.com (mail-yi0-f54.google.com [209.85.218.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE39D8FC20 for ; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 20:45:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yic13 with SMTP id 13so348478yic.13 for ; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 13:45:16 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=AZXgQ7m5qchkVEVsoyUmF2MAAQrPjoFdHymTvcDF9UM=; b=s7gmjBvHqxoMeg9ZnvgTcGNhqQx51sHr+XLBv30I2c4ABt6JkUd5OjK5CHYej8KMF7 aO1wrUnoYBM4N3Aku9IBZECy1JHRdlztRVinc3Q6dLZoiooa6mccMYTUTpCz9YcmASFP ETo9klXA+c52pK2PO2yIAlM0e1l+V+Dlus8NQ= Received: by 10.236.87.164 with SMTP id y24mr106341yhe.203.1310676315303; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 13:45:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from argus.electron-tube.net (desm-47-067.dsl.netins.net [167.142.47.67]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id c63sm504490yhe.60.2011.07.14.13.45.13 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 14 Jul 2011 13:45:14 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4E1F554A.90405@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 15:44:58 -0500 From: Jim Bryant User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (X11/20100911) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Zoran Kolic References: <20110712151858.GA1091@faust> In-Reply-To: <20110712151858.GA1091@faust> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: recommendations for laptop and desktop X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 20:45:17 -0000 stay away from newer hp laptops. been repairing laptops for money in recent years. HP laptops made after 2008 generally have serious issues with BGA lifting, and usually require motherboard replacement after 1-2 years. also their manuals have even more undocumented disassembly instructions, as well as incorrect disassembly instructions (use common sense and your eyes, following instructions will destroy hp laptops). as far as new/used, don't be biased. a used laptop will work fine. just keep the airpath and fan clean. used laptops on ebay can be had cheap, and rarely need extra work, and when they do, the parts are cheap and at the same place. advice: used is okay, use core2 duo or better, 3G RAM min, and samsung and toshiba BOTH now make 9.5mm 1TB laptop drives (for older laptops). Zoran Kolic wrote: > Comes a time to ask again and again the same question. > More I read, less I know. Just as I found that candida- > te for my new laptop, dell latitude 13 comes with anti- > glare screen and all hardware well supported, forums > reveal that it's 320gb hard drive heats a lot. It makes > vostro v13 better runner, but... > How sounds the idea to have a place on freebsd site for > such kind of data/wiki? Laptop recommendations should > include new models only, since older ones are not easy to > find in usable condition. Also, making a go for home > node, cold and quiet box, with parts fine under freebsd > is not so obvious. Especially for newer graphic chips. > It shows that my first idea to get cold phenom II on the > integrated mobo fails on almost all parts. > Yep, some kind of wiki, saying "phenom to use under 8.2 > to be cold and chip to find for amd mobo to take small > amount of power might be..." > At last, sad thing is that only before mentioned dell > comes supported and with matte screen. What is the box > you would recommend, not going deep into past decade? > Best regards all > > Zoran > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > >