From owner-freebsd-advocacy Mon Jun 28 19: 0: 1 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from nwcst286.netaddress.usa.net (nwcst286.netaddress.usa.net [204.68.23.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D289814BDC for ; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 18:59:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jesus.monroy@usa.net) Received: (qmail 27767 invoked by uid 60001); 29 Jun 1999 02:07:05 -0000 Message-ID: <19990629020705.27766.qmail@nwcst286.netaddress.usa.net> Received: from 204.68.23.31 by nwcst286 via web-mailer(M3.2.0.17) on Tue Jun 29 02:07:05 GMT 1999 Date: 28 Jun 99 19:07:05 PDT From: Jesus Monroy To: Terry Lambert Subject: Re: [Re: [Re: My FreeBSD Experience ]] Cc: advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: USANET web-mailer (M3.2.0.17) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Terry Lambert wrote: > > > It is possible to take his ability to make pilot errors away from > > > him, and avoid this type of complaint altogether. It's called > > > "usability engineering". > > = > > No, that's called "Windows." > = > You've obviously never installed a third party driver under Windows. > = > Usability engineering means that after you are done doing it, the > resulting code is usable. I don't call a driver that depends on > a specific version of a system component that's "upgraded" every > time something demands you install the latest version of Internet > Explorer particularly usable. > = Yes, if we don't recall that one, let remind you. Up until about 4 months ago M$ suggested people install IE 4.x to solve the Y2K problem. That is might under the heading of "usability engineering" but I would label plain stupid. It would require a 100MByte download to fix a 2 byte problem. > There is a difference between taking away options, and taking away > useless options. > = > For example, it should be impossible to install x86 FreeBSD without > writing a DOS partition table and a DOS-capable MBR, and it should > be impossible to install Alpha FreeBSD without a similar DEC-UNIX > compatible record. That the tools permit something like that > occuring at all is a commentary on the foibles of the tools. > = Wait, I disagree with you Terry. I beleive the issue one using a DOS-capable MBR is pretty well in-hand. The way the installation currently works you get a DOS-capable MBR bt default. = The install script goes out of it's way to say "don't do this", then "do you really want to do this?", "Are you really sure you want to do this?". If after these install steps the installer blows, then we really can't help them. I also note the "dangerously dedicated" sheet in the handbook. Have I missed something? --- "I'd rather pay for my freedom than live in a bitmapped, = pop-up-happy dungeon like NT." http://www.performancecomputing.com/features/9809of1.shtml ____________________________________________________________________ Get free e-mail and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=3D= 1 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message