From owner-freebsd-arch Wed Oct 11 16:28: 0 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from mail.rpi.edu (mail.rpi.edu [128.113.100.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5EDA37B503 for ; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 16:27:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [128.113.24.47] (gilead.acs.rpi.edu [128.113.24.47]) by mail.rpi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA73338; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 19:25:20 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: drosih@mail.rpi.edu Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <89300.971302012@critter> References: <89300.971302012@critter> Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 19:25:20 -0400 To: Poul-Henning Kamp , Matt Dillon From: Garance A Drosihn Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/etc inetd.conf Cc: arch@FreeBSD.ORG Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 12:06 AM +0200 10/12/00, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: >Matt Dillon writes: > > > I really have to take exception to such an idiotic posting > > by Poul, who seems to be trying to put words in my mouth > > that I have not said... in fact, Poul knows very well that > > I am not advocating an OpenBSD-style position. He also knows > > very well that I am not the type of person to take such > > remarks sitting down. > >What you are advocating is in fact a almost total word-for-word >repetition of the OpenBSD policy. > >You can stand up or sit down as you please, I don't care. Why are people (both sides) so worked up about this? It is clear we do NOT have universal agreement on disabling telnetd, so why can't we just pick some middle ground and do something "more secure" than what we have been doing, see how that works, and think about disabling telnetd by default in some later release? Why MUST we fight to the death about it right this minute? A few days ago I tried a proposal which seemed like a plausible idea to me. As near as I can tell, no one feels like even replying to that idea. Not to say "good idea", not to say "stupid idea, it doesn't go far enough". I am not among the people who have dug in their heels to fight, so apparently it wasn't interesting enough to comment on. I do not understand the vitriol in this thread. My guess is that this is now more about personality clashes instead of any reasoned debate by people using their brains. Everyone is pissing in everyone else's cereal, and the result is not very interesting. --- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.acs.rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer or drosih@rpi.edu Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-arch" in the body of the message