From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 4 18:57:12 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69EE11065670 for ; Mon, 4 Oct 2010 18:57:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dougb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mail2.fluidhosting.com (mx21.fluidhosting.com [204.14.89.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EBF88FC08 for ; Mon, 4 Oct 2010 18:57:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 17751 invoked by uid 399); 4 Oct 2010 18:57:10 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO ?192.168.0.142?) (dougb@dougbarton.us@127.0.0.1) by localhost with ESMTPAM; 4 Oct 2010 18:57:10 -0000 X-Originating-IP: 127.0.0.1 X-Sender: dougb@dougbarton.us Message-ID: <4CAA2388.2050308@FreeBSD.org> Date: Mon, 04 Oct 2010 11:57:12 -0700 From: Doug Barton Organization: http://SupersetSolutions.com/ User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.9) Gecko/20100915 Thunderbird/3.1.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Alexander Leidinger References: <19625.2146.758021.796409@gossamer.timing.com> <4CA90A78.5010806@FreeBSD.org> <20101004131504.790553t2r4kpcpwk@webmail.leidinger.net> In-Reply-To: <20101004131504.790553t2r4kpcpwk@webmail.leidinger.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.2a1pre OpenPGP: id=1A1ABC84 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "Philip M. Gollucci" , freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.org, John Hein Subject: Re: ident strings in pkg-plist X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Oct 2010 18:57:12 -0000 On 10/4/2010 4:15 AM, Alexander Leidinger wrote: > Quoting Doug Barton (from Sun, 03 Oct 2010 15:58:00 > -0700): > >> Changing the list to have a real discussion about this. >> >> On 10/3/2010 3:49 PM, John Hein wrote: >>> I'll mention that >>> it has come in handy for me in the past. I put it into the category >>> of ident strings in binaries. It has a similar utility. >>> >>> Because I find it useful in maintaining and using a port/package, >>> I've been one that has added it to pkg-plist in the past. >> >> I'm curious about what your use case for the information is. You can >> always know if you have the latest version of the plist via cvs, >> c[v]sup, portsnap, etc. Other than knowing that you have the latest >> version, what utility does the $Id string in the file itself have? > > I see a value in this if: > - you use a port with non-default options which change the plist > and > - a change is made to the plist which affects your use case, > but the revision of the port is not changed (because the change > only affects the non-default options and as such do not change > the default package) > > Normally you can not detect after a while if the plist in the port is > what is used in /var/db/pkg or not (the dates in /var/db/pkg may change > when portupgrade is used). > > If this matters and rectifies a new rule to include an ident string into > the plist or not... personally I wouldn't object if it is added. I think I understand what you're describing here, and if so you could probably count the number of people it would apply to on one hand. :) I'm not sure justifies adding it to all ports. In fact, my vote would be to remove it from all ports where it exists currently, but I really don't want to push that rock up hill. Doug -- Breadth of IT experience, and | Nothin' ever doesn't change, depth of knowledge in the DNS. | but nothin' changes much. Yours for the right price. :) | -- OK Go http://SupersetSolutions.com/