From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 19 18:20:25 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A99E416A4CE for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 18:20:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEDB843FDD for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 18:20:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) id hAK2K9S0074845; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 20:20:09 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dan) Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 20:20:09 -0600 From: Dan Nelson To: Richard Coleman Message-ID: <20031120022009.GB29530@dan.emsphone.com> References: <62981.24.0.61.35.1069202574.squirrel@mail.yazzy.org> <200311190103.hAJ13Nlg000923@dyson.jdyson.com> <20031119015433.GN30485@roark.gnf.org> <3FBC2053.6040208@mindspring.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3FBC2053.6040208@mindspring.com> X-OS: FreeBSD 5.1-CURRENT X-message-flag: Outlook Error User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.5.1i cc: masta@wifibsd.org cc: current@freebsd.org cc: dyson@iquest.net cc: imp@bsdimp.com Subject: Re: Unfortunate dynamic linking for everything X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 02:20:25 -0000 In the last episode (Nov 19), Richard Coleman said: > I don't really care whether everything is statically or dynamically > linked. With the fast machines and huge disks these days, bloat is not > much of an issue. But nss and pam need to work correctly. If the folks > that are against dynamic linking have an alternate method to make this > work, I'm all for it. But it needs to be more than theory. We need code. > > To be honest, I've never understood the (seemingly irrational) > resistance against this change. Solaris made this change 10 years ago. Not completely: $ uname -a SunOS pd1 5.9 Generic_112233-08 sun4u sparc SUNW,Ultra-Enterprise $ file /bin/sh /sbin/sh: ELF 32-bit MSB executable SPARC Version 1, statically linked, stripped $ file /sbin/* | grep statically | cut -d: -f1 | fmt /sbin/autopush /sbin/fdisk /sbin/jsh /sbin/mount /sbin/sh /sbin/soconfig /sbin/sync /sbin/umount /sbin/uname -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com