From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 14 22:14:09 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 170721065670 for ; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 22:14:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sterling@camdensoftware.com) Received: from wh1.interactivevillages.com (ca.2e.7bae.static.theplanet.com [174.123.46.202]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5D1E8FC14 for ; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 22:14:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from 184-78-197-203.war.clearwire-wmx.net ([184.78.197.203] helo=_HOSTNAME_) by wh1.interactivevillages.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QhSxw-0008O5-UK for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 13:56:38 -0700 Received: by _HOSTNAME_ (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Thu, 14 Jul 2011 13:56:59 -0700 Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 13:56:59 -0700 From: Chip Camden To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20110714205659.GB16595@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <20110712151858.GA1091@faust> <4E1F554A.90405@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="l76fUT7nc3MelDdI" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4E1F554A.90405@gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Company: Camden Software Consulting URL: http://camdensoftware.com X-PGP-Key: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?search=0xD6DBAF91 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - wh1.interactivevillages.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - camdensoftware.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Subject: Re: recommendations for laptop and desktop X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 22:14:09 -0000 --l76fUT7nc3MelDdI Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Quoth Jim Bryant on Thursday, 14 July 2011: > stay away from newer hp laptops. >=20 > been repairing laptops for money in recent years. HP laptops made after= =20 > 2008 generally have serious issues with BGA lifting, and usually require= =20 > motherboard replacement after 1-2 years. also their manuals have even=20 > more undocumented disassembly instructions, as well as incorrect=20 > disassembly instructions (use common sense and your eyes, following=20 > instructions will destroy hp laptops). >=20 Another data point: I bought an hp dv9000t in 2007, three years later the motherboard died. I agree with avoiding HP. I like my ASUS K72F, except that the Ironlake graphics aren't yet supported (soon, right Kostik?) --=20 =2EO. | Sterling (Chip) Camden | http://camdensoftware.com =2E.O | sterling@camdensoftware.com | http://chipsquips.com OOO | 2048R/D6DBAF91 | http://chipstips.com --l76fUT7nc3MelDdI Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (FreeBSD) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJOH1gbAAoJEIpckszW26+RXhIH/3DTEebcblx6K9BU6h95ob0J 01ZDeDeRLaH3NMiuPvwb5xiwJUgLr+GiJW2q/7XPrU+/3K8haN6aaDMKGfK5Js06 0RcpRPEeoau73EIU8LacGYmGLupU5mzls9fJnwVD3ssHpjsEFK7RkSfIxbbrMBFW aIwHcQPMXVoo9ePzTdhdVmBhyTsX5jZUHf4Ziz3/T5NW4UsQlm/kaRUq6bBQjlKP RxlVJxVB2ZZp/gTxw5yLCecR7Rv3mti33t0JhvqLmT8A5a/s0mzUhecoe77idwoL rO2Ov2c50QNRnhkv70nN2zsnoiK3WFpHdJK4e0aKmJcvsoATLHVNS28euXIQjJU= =PKdi -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --l76fUT7nc3MelDdI--