From owner-freebsd-security Wed Jul 14 10:44:45 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-security@freebsd.org Received: from sfmailrelay.hamquist.com (sfmailrelay2.hamquist.com [199.108.89.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1FC5D14BD8 for ; Wed, 14 Jul 1999 10:44:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from 10.40.251.222 by sfmailrelay.hamquist.com with ESMTP ( WorldSecure Server SMTP Relay(WSS) v3.6); Wed, 14 Jul 99 10:42:40 -0700 X-Server-Uuid: c29e0ff2-e8b9-11d1-a493-00c04fbbd7d3 Received: by sf1-mail03 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id <3RP6TKFF>; Wed, 14 Jul 1999 10:42:40 -0700 Message-ID: From: "Childers, Richard" To: "'Anil Jangity '" , "'freebsd-security@freebsd.org '" Subject: RE: weird w report? Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 10:42:39 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) X-WSS-ID: 1B92139A161287-01-02 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org "I have a weird user logon." I don't mean to sound like an old grouch, here, but trouble reports that are not accompanied by simple ASCII cut-and-paste examples of the 'here's what I do, here's what I see' variety are worth almost nothing. If you (not you, Anil, but the second person, generic 'you') can't be bothered to take this small effort to facilitate the efforts of others to assist you, then how can you expect others to expend any effort to help you resolve your problem ?? Here's an example: When I run the command 'foo -bar blat' I get an error. (That's where the usual description cuts off. The professional reporter of system problems would continue:) Here's what I see: root@spam.vax.com # uname -s -r FreeBSD 2.2.9-RELEASE (-: root@spam.vax.com # which foo /usr/bin/foo root@spam.vax.com # file `which foo` foo: FreeBSD/i386 compact demand-paged executable root@spam.vax.com # foo Usage: foo [-[abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz] file [file] root@spam.vax.com # ls -l ./blat -rw-r--r-- 1 root bin 123 Feb 29 04:01 ./blat root@spam.vax.com # foo -bar ./blat ERROR: No such file or directory '.' We can take it one step further: root@spam.vax.com # foo -bar ./blat ; echo $status ERROR: No such file or directory '.' 4 Now, *there's* a diagnostic description ... the person(s) on the receiving end now know your operating system version, the path to the executable, the way you are using it, the type of file being run and the type of file the utility is being run on, and, not just the error message, but the return status of the command, as well. This is important for the person reporting the problem, as well as the person resolving the problem; because it is an opportunity to become a better-informed customer, and because it is the first step to becoming independent of those more knowledgeable than oneself, as one grows into the role of being more knowledgeable, oneself, through experience ... -- richard -----Original Message----- From: Anil Jangity To: freebsd-security@freebsd.org Sent: 7/13/99 11:31 PM Subject: weird w report? I have a weird user logon. Its there but at the same time its not there. Commands such as w(1) and last(1) report that a user is logged in but when I do ``ps auxU '' I don't see anything running for that user. Then, I did ``su -m '' and then ``kill -9 -1'' and still no luck. w(1) still reports as if the user is there. I have no zombies running. My question is why is it doing this and if so how can I get rid of it w/o having to reboot? Its not really a problem, but I am just wondering as to how to get rid of it if its possible. Thanks Anil Jangity To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-security" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-security" in the body of the message