From owner-freebsd-chat Tue Oct 23 13:43: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from lists.blarg.net (lists.blarg.net [206.124.128.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72A4337B401 for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2001 13:43:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from thig.blarg.net (thig.blarg.net [206.124.128.18]) by lists.blarg.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D21DEBD12; Tue, 23 Oct 2001 13:43:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([206.124.139.115]) by thig.blarg.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA01368; Tue, 23 Oct 2001 13:43:01 -0700 Received: (from jojo@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.3) id f9NKgQM44033; Tue, 23 Oct 2001 13:42:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from swear@blarg.net) To: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Cc: chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: On holy wars and a plea for peace References: From: swear@blarg.net (Gary W. Swearingen) Date: 23 Oct 2001 13:42:24 -0700 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <7epu7ehyvj.u7e@localhost.localdomain> Lines: 40 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.1 (Cuyahoga Valley) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Dag-Erling Smorgrav -- you wrote: > Let's please not have long passionate diatribes about [insert your > favorite religion] on this list. We don't want this kind of flame war > here. Learn to hit 'reply' instead of 'followup' or 'group reply'. Haven't you twice in the last few days sent complaints about this to the list? I think it's safe to say that most people don't mind ignoring threads they aren't interested in because they can expect them to peter out soon enough. And "we"? Who's that? So far I've seen two posts that support that statement, but they're both from you, while at least ten people have participated in what I think you've inaccurately called a flame war. From http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/eresources.html freebsd-chat -- "Non-technical items related to the FreeBSD community" "about non-technical, social information" "whether Jordan looks like a toon ferret or not" "where the best beer is brewed" Unless you can get that changed, I think you're going to have to get out your John Lennon and imagine a mailing list without religion or politics or whatever it is that you do not want FreeBSD users to discuss here. Regarding your subject line: I think language works better when peace is about putting fingers to keys and war is about putting fingers to throats. I know there's a movement to consider any expression of conflicting views an act of violence worthy of government sanction (mostly in civil court so far, but finding its way into statutes), but I see it as slippery slope into a tub of tar. Maybe dope-smokers like Lennon can imagine a world without conflicting opinions, but the rest of us need to learn to live with it in a state of peace (and not by stifling all exchange of opinion or hauling each other into courts). No hard feelings here (yet) but do remember that it is bad e-tiquette to repeat yourself before you can expect many new people in your audience. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message