Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 19:03:28 -0500 (EST) From: Robert Watson <rwatson@FreeBSD.org> To: Mike Meyer <mwm@mired.org> Cc: Jimmy Olgeni <olgeni@FreeBSD.org>, Alan Clegg <abc@bsdi.com>, freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Seems one of the "defacement" groups now uses beastie. Message-ID: <Pine.NEB.3.96L.1010215185934.45646H-100000@fledge.watson.org> In-Reply-To: <14987.60854.275028.917102@guru.mired.org>
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On Thu, 15 Feb 2001, Mike Meyer wrote: > Jimmy Olgeni <olgeni@FreeBSD.org> types: > > On Thu, 15 Feb 2001, Mike Meyer wrote: > > > Well, it's not an image I've seen on Kirk's site, so it's not likely > > > they violated his copyright by taking it from their. I suspect they > > > drew (or commisioned) their own, meaning it's perfectly legal for them > > > to do so. > > Looks like they got it from http://www.trustedbsd.org/. > > Sure does, at that. That one belongs to Leigh Denault, who points you to > Kirk for permission to use Leigh's work. Which means they really do need > Kirk's approval. Which is all very cool. Yup -- sure enough, this is the TrustedBSD Daemon being used without permission, and after removing the artist's name from the image. On the one hand, I'm glad her name was removed before it was posted on the front page of a defaced site -- on the other hand, it's definitely a product of use without permission :-). The TrustedBSD daemon was created by Leigh and is used with the permission of Kirk McKusick since he claims rights relating to the BSD Daemon. The hacked site is somewhat entertaining, and I'm fine with the Attrition people keeping a copy up for that purpose, but would generally discourage use of the logo for things not specifically associated with the TrustedBSD Project. This is actually the second copyright violation I've come across over the last few weeks. The first was that the OpenRoot people are selling OpenRoot t-shirts with the TrustedBSD logo on them. Apparently they didn't realize that leaving the name on the image and then selling it constitutes acknowledgement, and not permission. For those in any doubt: acknowledging is not the same as getting permission. Robert N M Watson FreeBSD Core Team, TrustedBSD Project robert@fledge.watson.org NAI Labs, Safeport Network Services To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message
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