From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 14 17:20:32 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BDB816A415 for ; Thu, 14 Sep 2006 17:20:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECD5E43D45 for ; Thu, 14 Sep 2006 17:20:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by elvis.mu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C513D1A4D79; Thu, 14 Sep 2006 10:20:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 2ED2D5159A; Thu, 14 Sep 2006 13:20:18 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 13:20:16 -0400 From: Kris Kennaway To: Gerard Seibert Message-ID: <20060914172015.GA54814@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <62007.209.103.215.99.1158241221.squirrel@email.polands.org> <20060914160919.GB53648@xor.obsecurity.org> <200609141253.15187.gerard@seibercom.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="rwEMma7ioTxnRzrJ" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200609141253.15187.gerard@seibercom.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: BSDStats project, interesting returns from OpenBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 17:20:32 -0000 --rwEMma7ioTxnRzrJ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Sep 14, 2006 at 12:53:04PM -0400, Gerard Seibert wrote: > On Thursday 14 September 2006 12:09, Kris Kennaway wrote: >=20 > > One should not conclude anything until the numbers are much larger > > than they are now, because small fluctuations from e.g. regional > > promotion of bsdstats in one country but not another, or one large > > company deploying it on all machine, will dramatically change your > > "conclusions". >=20 > I was just wondering if there is any consensus on adding BSDStats to the= =20 > base system? If would appear to be a logical step to take so as to insure= =20 > that all users of FBSD would be counted. An end user could always disable= =20 > the sending of data by disabling it in the /etc/rc.file. I feel that unle= ss=20 > it is part of the base system and turned on by default, too many users wi= ll=20 > never take part in the reporting process. I highly doubt that it would be enabled by default in FreeBSD, since many of our users (or their employers) would consider it a privacy breach to have their systems reporting back automatically. Kris --rwEMma7ioTxnRzrJ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFFCY9NWry0BWjoQKURAtubAJ9Sdtkj1Ix/uE+uIPp8g63vO+8AmACgpsVv 27W//Z8CYD8G7HSKylZZMis= =oOLq -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --rwEMma7ioTxnRzrJ--