From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 31 04:06:20 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69AD21065670 for ; Sat, 31 May 2008 04:06:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from igloo.linux.gr (igloo.linux.gr [62.1.205.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F01898FC13 for ; Sat, 31 May 2008 04:06:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from kobe.laptop (adsl66-17.kln.forthnet.gr [77.49.113.17]) (authenticated bits=128) by igloo.linux.gr (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-1) with ESMTP id m4V45qhx022638 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Sat, 31 May 2008 07:05:59 +0300 Received: from kobe.laptop (kobe.laptop [127.0.0.1]) by kobe.laptop (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m4V45pIM003369; Sat, 31 May 2008 07:05:51 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by kobe.laptop (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id m4V45ofR003368; Sat, 31 May 2008 07:05:50 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) From: Giorgos Keramidas To: DAve References: <483EE95F.8000509@studsvik.com> <483FAD90.6010101@extracktor.com> <484013A7.6020507@mikestammer.com> <48401F97.9010003@pixelhammer.com> Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 07:05:49 +0300 In-Reply-To: <48401F97.9010003@pixelhammer.com> (DAve's message of "Fri, 30 May 2008 11:39:03 -0400") Message-ID: <87zlq73yoy.fsf@kobe.laptop> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-MailScanner-ID: m4V45qhx022638 X-Hellug-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Hellug-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-3.784, required 5, ALL_TRUSTED -1.80, AWL 0.61, BAYES_00 -2.60, BODY_ENHANCEMENT2 0.00) X-Hellug-MailScanner-From: keramida@ceid.upatras.gr X-Spam-Status: No Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Need to build a new mail server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 04:06:20 -0000 On Fri, 30 May 2008 11:39:03 -0400, DAve wrote: > Eric Zimmerman wrote: >> heres some interesting reading about qmail... >> http://www.dt.e-technik.uni-dortmund.de/~ma/qmail-bugs.html > > That so much time and effort is spent telling everyone how bad qmail > is still amazes me. It is one of the best performing and most > extensible MTAs I have ever used. It is not however, suitable for > those who choose not to understand how mail works. Point and clickers > should stay with Postfix, also a very capable MTA. This freebsd-questions thread is approaching a low signal/noise ratio very very fast. MTAs are a hotly debated subject, and they tend to spark the flames of a religious war *very* fast. Can we _please_ try to steer this discussion back on track, and actually _help_ the original poster, instead of showing that in a dick size war we can definitely 'win' by our elite administrator skillz? Please?