From owner-freebsd-chat Wed Sep 23 13:45:53 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA12122 for freebsd-chat-outgoing; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 13:45:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (dingo.cdrom.com [204.216.28.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA12081 for ; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 13:45:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA03869; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 13:49:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199809232049.NAA03869@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Johann Visagie cc: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Dag-Erling_C=2E_Sm=F8rgrav_?= , Mike Smith , chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Debugging, Linux style In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 23 Sep 1998 15:10:53 +0200." <19980923151053.B9294@cityip.co.za> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 13:49:02 -0700 From: Mike Smith Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hub.freebsd.org id NAA12093 Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > On Tue, 22 Sep 1998 at 23:05 SAT, Dag-Erling C. Smørgrav wrote: > > > > The term "shotgun debugging" comes to mind. > > Out of curiosity, what would be a valid procedure to follow in order to debug > that user's problem? A 1:1 dialog with the user, involving the replacement of various hardware components, extraction of more debugging information, etc. > (Also: I've heard that certain versions of the Virge cause lockups when used > with certain PII chipsets, but that might be hearsay.) I have personally witnessed fatal interactions between the ViRGE VX and DX chips and the 440FX PCI implementation. I have a 4M DX going cheap if someone is game. 8( -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message