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Date:      Thu, 13 Apr 2000 09:30:33 -0700
From:      Alfred Perlstein <bright@wintelcom.net>
To:        Yong Lim <yong@csfi.com>
Cc:        freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: ranting
Message-ID:  <20000413093033.V4381@fw.wintelcom.net>
In-Reply-To: <NDBBLNEEEKNNPEMEDDDKOEIACFAA.yong@csfi.com>; from yong@csfi.com on Thu, Apr 13, 2000 at 11:54:35AM -0400
References:  <38E947B2.DD87C47B@home.com> <NDBBLNEEEKNNPEMEDDDKOEIACFAA.yong@csfi.com>

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* Yong Lim <yong@csfi.com> [000413 09:21] wrote:
> I must be reading too much /. to think I should have an opinion on an OS.  I
> don't think paying a subscription to the CD's would qualify either.  I guess
> just take this as what it is a grain of salt.
> 
> Not that I am that new to Unix system.  As with most everyone else these
> days my day job is writing c codes on NCR Unix, Unixware, AIX and Solaris
> (install this os on PC partition...sweet install).  That still does not
> qualify me as anything other then a newbies here.
> 
> Now on to my ranting...what's with the Backspace key?  Running vi from xterm
> will not function the same as running vi from rxvt.  Okay, a problem so I
> sent out an email.  I am grateful for each an every responses and someone
> suggests that I look at terminfo.  Has anyone look at that file?  It is
> scary to pull that thing up.  Second thing to do search the web for answer.
> Someone on the web did have two wonderful and descriptive description of the
> problem for Linux.  It has a wonderful history of the original problem where
> it started during the punch card period.  Now the last update to this web
> page was Sunday, February 27, 2000 17:29:48.  How many years now?  And no
> one think to solve this problem or choices?  As most people might know BSD
> has as good and long history in it, that's probably why a similar article on
> how to solve this problem will come up shortly since BSD might not goes to
> the punch card period.  The hippies started a bite later.

Be lucky you have a choice.  How exactly does one fiddle with terminal
settings on MS platforms?

As far as getting rxvt to be less brain damaged:

Rxvt.backspacekey: ^H

in your .Xdefaults should help.

> Second ranting...I don't like MS.  And FreeBSD and Lunix will take over MS
> one day.  But has anybody read the manual lately?  Before installing be sure
> to run Control Panel and notes all the IRQ's for the devices, the manual
> would read.  Does anyone not see the problem here?  This would mean that
> there's an existing running Window already.  Forgive the soul who wrote the
> IRQ wrong and install his brand new os over Windows.  Assuming the OS
> install went well and you need to have ppp going.  Well, you don't have the
> sio map to the correct IRQ.  Well, you need to rebuild the kernel.  There
> are good articles and instruction on the web for doing this.  I guess I
> should have known since a article by that gerbils loving guy an titled
> "FreeBSD for the SVR4/Linux Administrator" dealt exclusively with rebuilding
> the kernel.  If I don't know what a gerbil is I should cancel my
> subscription.

Well, in all honesty you can change without the irq settings without
rebooting if you hit spacebar at the countdown during bootup then
type "boot -c".

As far as needing windows before the install, that's totally wrong,
the idea is the same as if you already had Linux or Solaris installed
on a box, take down the working hardware settings before installing
a new OS because copying is easier than figuring out your settings
from scratch.

If you already know all the hardware settings you don't need any
other OS, and with PCI and plug-n-play (autoconfig) nowadays this
is becoming less of an issue.

-- 
-Alfred Perlstein - [bright@wintelcom.net|alfred@freebsd.org]
"I have the heart of a child; I keep it in a jar on my desk."


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