From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Fri Nov 20 13:54:13 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F91AA339A7 for ; Fri, 20 Nov 2015 13:54:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan_partelly@rdsor.ro) Received: from mail.rdsor.ro (mail.rdsor.ro [193.231.238.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C35451D49; Fri, 20 Nov 2015 13:54:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan_partelly@rdsor.ro) Received: from [192.168.1.166] (unknown [86.125.33.32]) by mail.rdsor.ro (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F7A6CA3E2; Fri, 20 Nov 2015 15:54:05 +0200 (EET) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 9.1 \(3096.5\)) Subject: Re: DDB patches From: Dan Partelly In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2015 15:54:05 +0200 Cc: Adrian Chadd , freebsd-current Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <8FCD1760-FD2C-4C08-837A-A2ADD2581FC3@rdsor.ro> References: <22918FB9-4DC2-438D-B9F0-C295DD273B50@rdsor.ro> To: Pedro Giffuni X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3096.5) X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2015 13:54:13 -0000 Hi Pedro, I think you confuse blackmailing with something much simpler and = pragmatic.=20 One needs to asses how things work in your project for real before = investing=20 too much time.=20 Adrian was contemplating the fact that none writes code, so I had some = code at the hand with with I can see how things work around here. You want it, good.=20= You don't want it, its also good. You want to trash it=E2=80=A6 also = good.=20 Its all the same to me. This process is aimed to give me an idea , if = your workflow=20 works for me. =20 =20 > you discuss your idea and try to get some consensus in the = lists/IRC/conferences. I am not particularly interested in promoting ideas and gathering = consensus. I am not a=20 politician. I happen to believe that translating some utilities from the = base to libraries=20 is a very valuable addition to the project. Id rather spend time with = my familty and walk around the city in nature with my GSD dog than embarking on some twisted = political campaign.=20 > We are particularly NOT interested in code where the original = contributor will walk > away as soon as he/she receives criticism or has plans that do not = match ours. Undeerstandable.=20 >=20 > Libxo already went through this process. >=20 >> Libxo already went through this process. It did, aint it ? And I seen what kind of =E2=80=9Cconsensus=E2=80=9D = the xoification of base=20 caused. Apparently, adopted for no better reason than =E2=80=9Csomeone = wrote code=E2=80=9D . > If this is not your ideal workflow =E2=80=A6 fork your own BSD, a lot = of intelligent > people do just that. Not the best thing one can do=E2=80=A6 but I guess to each his own.=20 >>=20 >=20 > Wrong approach. You can=E2=80=99t really blackmail someone into taking = your changes. >=20 > Things work like this: >=20 > - You discuss your idea and try to get some consensus in the = lists/IRC/conferences. > - You *write* a specific proof of concept and get it discussed. > - You finish your prototype. > - Your work gets rejected until you get something some committer is = willing to support. > - When there are no objections and a committer feels like it, your = work gets committed, > which doesn=E2=80=99t necessarily mean it will stay. > - You are expected to maintain it. >=20 > Libxo already went through this process. >=20 > We are particularly NOT interested in code where the original = contributor will walk > away as soon as he/she receives criticism or has plans that do not = match ours. > If this is not your ideal workflow =E2=80=A6 fork your own BSD, a lot = of intelligent > people do just that. >=20 > Pedro. >=20 >>=20 >> Dan >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>> On 19 Nov 2015, at 11:17, Pedro Giffuni wrote: >>=20 >>>=20 >>> Hello; >>>=20 >>>> Il giorno 19/nov/2015, alle ore 02:34, Dan Partelly = ha scritto: >>>>=20 >>>> Hey Pedro, >>>>=20 >>>> some times ago you got some DDB patches from me in which I added = relational ops support from it. The patch was a bit clobbered,=20 >>>> but last I know you cleaned it up and put it somewhere on = freebsd.org (prolly your page) up for review.=20 >>>>=20 >>>=20 >>> It=E2=80=99s here: >>> https://people.freebsd.org/~pfg/patches/ddb.patch >>>=20 >>> I haven=E2=80=99t tested it though. >>>=20 >>>> Could you or Adrian review the patch set , and if it is OK = potentially proceed with a commit ? Or if it is not ok for a commit , = please advice on a follow up.=20 >>>>=20 >>>=20 >>> I am having hardware issues so I won=E2=80=99t be able to do much in = a while. >>> Perhaps you should review it and submit it as a PR. >>>=20 >>> Pedro. >>>=20 >>=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current > To unsubscribe, send any mail to = "freebsd-current-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"