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Date:      Thu, 17 Jun 2004 16:27:36 +0200
From:      Jorn Argelo <jorn@wcborstel.nl>
To:        Jerry McAllister <jerrymc@clunix.cl.msu.edu>
Cc:        questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   [A bit OT]Re: New user questions :)
Message-ID:  <40D1AA58.1010006@wcborstel.nl>
In-Reply-To: <200406171410.i5HEA1u20342@clunix.cl.msu.edu>
References:  <200406171410.i5HEA1u20342@clunix.cl.msu.edu>

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Jerry McAllister wrote:

>>Graham Bentley wrote:
>>
>>    
>>
>>>Thanks for that Jorn :)
>>>
>>>I am still elarning (guess I'll never stop :)
>>>
>>>I did a minimal config of FreeBSD and wanted
>>>to use Midnight Commander
>>>
>>>(I know this isnt that secure and its a bit of a crutch
>>>but its good for noobs like me)
>>>
>>>Anyway, there was 7 porgs missing all of which
>>>DL'ed and compiled but it took 35 minutes !!!
>>> 
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>I suppose you don't want to compile KDE or OpenOffice.org from source 
>>then. KDE took me roughly ten hours and OpenOffice.org roughly twelve 
>>hours, including the java installation. *grin*
>>
>>    
>>
>>>Is it possible to install just the binary (stoopid
>>>question if that binary needs libs / other progs
>>>to be installed first :)
>>> 
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>You can install packages, yes. Just use the pkg_add command. However, I 
>>believe that the wonder of Open Source is that we compile the source 
>>code ourselves. If you're a fan of packages and RPMs, then you might as 
>>well use Bill's software then *ducks*
>>    
>>
>
>That advice may be OK for some things, but it doesn't make sense
>to make yourself compile such behemoths as Openoffice and etc 
>unless you are in to pain and suffering for your entertainment.
>  
>
Heh, that's true. Though let's be honest, you have to try everything 
once, don't you think? I  got no problems compiling KDE, but I don't 
really prefer using OOo. I'll use KOffice instead.

>Download the packages from the creator/maintainer and pkg_add
>them.   They already make a version compiled just for FreeBSD.
>For Openoffice, check out:   
>                           http://projects.imp.ch/openoffice/
>
>I used that and it works and works just fine.   There was an error in
>the instructions though.   When you get done with the pck_add you need
>to run it to config.  
>That is:  /usr/local/OpenOffice.org1.1.0/program/soffice
>instead of what they say.   That depends a little, also on where
>you install it.  This depends on installing it in:
>        /usr/local/OpenOffice.org1.1.0/
>
>As for the rest of the advice, yah, learn cvsup, the worlds, etc
>But, when there are good packages available, don't be shy about
>using them.   This is a practical thing.   It ain't about how
>much macho-man you are.
>  
>
True there. Packages can be handy, especially for applications like 
OpenOffice.org. It's just a matter of preference I'd say.

Cheers,

Jorn



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