From owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 23 02:17:13 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD7A616A403 for ; Sat, 23 Feb 2008 02:17:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@sopwith.solgatos.com) Received: from schitzo.solgatos.com (pool-72-87-39-191.ptldor.fios.verizon.net [72.87.39.191]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A60C213C45B for ; Sat, 23 Feb 2008 02:17:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@sopwith.solgatos.com) Received: from schitzo.solgatos.com (localhost.home.localnet [127.0.0.1]) by schitzo.solgatos.com (8.14.2/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m1N2HDDS021809 for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 18:17:13 -0800 Received: from sopwith.solgatos.com (uucp@localhost) by schitzo.solgatos.com (8.14.2/8.14.1/Submit) with UUCP id m1N2HDPC021805 for freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 18:17:13 -0800 Received: from localhost by sopwith.solgatos.com (8.8.8/6.24) id BAA24291; Sat, 23 Feb 2008 01:59:44 GMT Message-Id: <200802230159.BAA24291@sopwith.solgatos.com> To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 23 Feb 2008 01:56:29 +0100." <200802230156.29551.danny@ricin.com> Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 17:59:44 +0000 From: Dieter Subject: Re: Kbtv2 beta2 uploaded X-BeenThere: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Multimedia discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 02:17:14 -0000 > > > Your card seems to have a microtune tuner mt2050 which is not yet > > > supported by the saa backend. I'm looking into it. Unfortunately it > > > differs from the other generic tuner APIs for saa in that tuning and init > > > are to be handled differently (mt2032 is supported by bktr, so I can peek > > > there). THis is an important tuner to have support for though for several > > > reasons: > > > > > > - it's on a chip, not in a large chunky metal enclosure > > > > I have read that the very small USB tuners don't perform as well as the > > "large chunky metal enclosure", because some features were left out. > Well, they don't have an mpeg encoder chip, but neither do the old fashioned > analog TV cards. Of course, supporting that A/V decoder is another matter. > But so is supporting an onboard mpeg encoder. > > They seem to use empia chipsets almost exclusively, the variant without > onboard MPEG encoder is called the "blackbird" design IIRC. No, I mean the reception performance, not mpeg features. The "big" metal cans supposedly have better RF filtering. Keeping the undesired frequencies out is important.