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Date:      Fri, 11 Jan 2002 19:18:33 -0800
From:      Marcel Moolenaar <marcel@xcllnt.net>
To:        Dag-Erling Smorgrav <des@ofug.org>
Cc:        cvs-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: cvs commit: src/sys/compat/linux linux_ioctl.c
Message-ID:  <20020111191833.A312@dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net>
In-Reply-To: <xzpd70ghc78.fsf@flood.ping.uio.no>
References:  <200201100536.g0A5aao01807@freefall.freebsd.org> <xzpy9j5hecf.fsf@flood.ping.uio.no> <20020110191209.A318@dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net> <xzpu1tth859.fsf@flood.ping.uio.no> <20020110203918.A440@dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net> <xzppu4hgkwg.fsf@flood.ping.uio.no> <20020111112851.A2103@kayak.xcllnt.net> <xzpd70ghc78.fsf@flood.ping.uio.no>

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On Fri, Jan 11, 2002 at 09:20:11PM +0100, Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote:
> Marcel Moolenaar <marcel@xcllnt.net> writes:
> > On Fri, Jan 11, 2002 at 12:57:35PM +0100, Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote:
> > > Please provide references to those bugs.
> > http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=673075+675491+/usr/local/www/db/text/2001/freebsd-stable/20011202.freebsd-stable
> > 
> > http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=238427+0+current/freebsd-stable
> 
> Right.  So 1) no PR was filed (what do we have a PR system for
> anyway?) and 2) these messages contain no information about what the
> bug is, just (in one of them) a vague description of symptoms, so you
> don't even know if this is a real fix or just a workaround.

1) Don't drag everything you think you can use in your advantage
   into the discussion. It only shows your unreasonability and
   does nothing whatsoever to keep this discussion on track.

2) I know it's a fix, because not only does it solve the problem,
   it modifies the behaviour to one that matches Linux'. According
   to another email you sent in this thread you spend weeks to
   implement what you did and I assume that you invested numerous
   hours and days to grasp the grand problem. I'm not even going
   to argue with you whether I was involved in it or not, but don't
   expect me to think that you cannot follow the "next in thread" 
   link, see the kernel trace and the patch in that thread and
   add 1 and 1 together. You're insulting my intelligence. Not
   only that, you're insulting your own intelligence...

> Especially when similar patches have been suggested, discussed, and
> rejected before (see for instance the audit trail for PR 26546).

Please point me to the audit trail that contains the discussion and
the ultimate reason for the rejection. The PR number you gave does
not have the information you're referring to.

-- 
 Marcel Moolenaar	  USPA: A-39004		 marcel@xcllnt.net

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