From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 28 11:14:17 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95C4716A4CE; Wed, 28 Jul 2004 11:14:17 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rosebud.otenet.gr (rosebud.otenet.gr [195.170.0.26]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1C3E43D66; Wed, 28 Jul 2004 11:14:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from orion.daedalusnetworks.priv (aris.bedc.ondsl.gr [62.103.39.226])i6SBEEil020930; Wed, 28 Jul 2004 14:14:14 +0300 Received: from orion.daedalusnetworks.priv (orion [127.0.0.1]) i6SBF2Xd024345; Wed, 28 Jul 2004 14:15:02 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost)i6SBF1K1024344; Wed, 28 Jul 2004 14:15:01 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 14:15:01 +0300 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Murray Stokely Message-ID: <20040728111501.GA21300@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> References: <200407281011.i6SABwac090675@repoman.freebsd.org> <20040728105443.GA19031@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> <20040728105822.GD52195@hub.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040728105822.GD52195@hub.freebsd.org> cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cvs commit: doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/advanced-networking chapter.sgml X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 11:14:17 -0000 On 2004-07-28 10:58, Murray Stokely wrote: > On Wed, Jul 28, 2004 at 01:54:43PM +0300, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > > I meant to ask a while ago, when I saw similar commits, but I postponed > > it and then forgot to ask. When is it considered good style to remove > > the frames from tables? Does the choise depend on the output format or > > is there some other reason? > > Frames never look good in print output. The stylesheets are braindead > and there is no padding between the contents and the border. Even if > that is manually added in the TeX processing stage, it still looks out > of place because for print output you just want the line separating > the column headers from the data -- anything else and the page looks > too cluttered at best, and like a printed web page at worst. True. I'll keep this in mind. > As for HTML output, I don't feel too strongly either way. I don't > think with or without frames makes too much of a difference. I tend to prefer 'without' (or, at least, when frames *are* present, a style with a very slight possibility of being distracting to the eye). I'm not going to stand in the way of anyone who adds or removes frames to HTML output though. Thanks for a very fast reply :)