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Date:      Wed, 4 Jul 2001 13:07:42 -0700
From:      David Greenman <dg@root.com>
To:        Hodge Podge <nicole@unixgirl.com>
Cc:        Greg Lehey <grog@FreeBSD.ORG>, FreeBSD Crap <freebsd-crap@FreeBSD.ORG>, Josef Grosch <jgrosch@mooseriver.com>, "Michael C . Wu" <keichii@peorth.iteration.net>, Robert Clark <res03db2@gte.net>
Subject:   Re: Trademarks (was: FreeBSD Services Ltd)
Message-ID:  <20010704130742.F89686@nexus.root.com>
In-Reply-To: <XFMail.010704131558.nicole@unixgirl.com>; from nicole@unixgirl.com on Wed, Jul 04, 2001 at 01:15:58PM -0700
References:  <20010704110420.A1649@sydney.worldwide.lemis.com> <XFMail.010704131558.nicole@unixgirl.com>

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>On 04-Jul-01 Greg Lehey wrote:
>> On Saturday, 30 June 2001 at 11:07:17 -0700, Robert Clark wrote:
>>> On Fri, Jun 29, 2001 at 10:51:37PM -0500, Michael C . Wu wrote:
>>>> On Fri, Jun 29, 2001 at 04:16:49PM -0700, Robert Clark scribbled:
>>>>>
>>>>> The have a picture of chuck holding a crescent wrench (adjustable
>>>>> spanner) too. Using that graphic would require asking permission.
>>>>>
>>>>> Using the name "FreeBSD" would require getting permission too.
>>>>>
>>>>> So either they've done their homework, or they're looking for a
>>>>> rumble.
>>>>
>>>> Please do your homework.  Kirk states using the daemon for anything
>>>> other than obscene purposes is OK.  In addition, FreeBSD is not
>>>> an enforceable trademark.
>>>
>>> Wow, I didn't know that.
>> 
>> Neither did I.  On the contrary, I know that Kirk does what he can to
>> ensure that the daemon image is only used in a BSD context, and
>> FreeBSD was a registered trade mark of BSDi.  I assume it has now gone
>> to Wind River systems.
>
>
> As far as I know the FreeBSD trademark is not owned by Windriver, however the
>BSDI trademark is. The FreeBSD trademark is held by the FreeBSD Inc non profit
>group.

   Wrong. It is owned by Wind River as part of the asset transfer from BSDi
(which acquired the trademark from Walnut Creek CDROM). It is everyone's plan
to transfer it to the FreeBSD Foundation in the near future, however.

-DG

David Greenman
Co-founder, The FreeBSD Project - http://www.freebsd.org
President, TeraSolutions, Inc. - http://www.terasolutions.com
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