From owner-freebsd-current Mon Oct 28 7: 0:38 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B447737B401; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 07:00:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from gypsy.vrac.iastate.edu (gypsy.vrac.iastate.edu [129.186.232.122]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3A6543E77; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 07:00:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from patrick@137.org) Received: from 137.org (gfxn2.vrac.iastate.edu [129.186.232.116]) by gypsy.vrac.iastate.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C9001E; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 09:00:34 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3DBD5065.4040409@137.org> Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 08:57:41 -0600 From: Patrick Hartling Reply-To: patrick@137.org User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.0.1) Gecko/20021003 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Juli Mallett Cc: Peter Wemm , current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HEADS UP: you need to install a new kernel before an installworld. References: <20021025192535.EF82F2A88D@canning.wemm.org> <3DBD3D03.9030507@137.org> <20021028054715.A11208@FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Juli Mallett wrote: > * De: Patrick Hartling [ Data: 2002-10-28 ] > [ Subjecte: Re: HEADS UP: you need to install a new kernel before an installworld. ] > >>Peter Wemm wrote: >> >>>Due to sigaction(2) syscall number changes, doing a 'make installworld' >>>without having booted a new kernel would be rather messy. For example, if >>>you tried to reboot with the old kernel, /sbin/init and /bin/sh would get a >>>signal and abort. That would be bad. >> >>Does this apply to ports as well? GNOME applications have started >>crashing a lot all of a sudden after updating my kernel (I haven't done >>'installworld' yet). Do I need to rebuild all the GNOME stuff, or >>should I just back off to my previous kernel and wait a little while >>longer before doing another cvsup? > > > Really? My GNOME apps built from 2 months (up to 2 hours) ago have been > working better as I run kernel+world nearer to the impending release. Mine had been working quite well up until this weekend. Only two things changed on my system: the kernel and the freetype2 port version (it's now freetype2-2.1.2_1). I'm running GNOME 2.0, so it may have some instability due to growing pains. However, I have been running GNOME 2 since the (excellent) ports team got it working on FreeBSD--the problems only began this weekend. > What sorts of problems are you running into? Nearly all GNOME applications crash with an "Abort trap" error, and the only way I can log out is to restart the X server. Nautilus is particularly evil because it can get into a situation where it crashes, restarts itself, and crashes again--repeating the process indefinitely. > Also, how old was your > kernel, and how old is your userland? Userland and old kernel are from October 13. I built the new kernel Friday evening. I booted my Oct 13 kernel this morning, and the GNOME crashes are persisting, so I think my original diagnosis was wrong. I think I'll try to back off to the previous freetype2 revision and see if that fixes things. > With no more info, I'd prolly > advise you to update everything to the latest, and if problems persist, > rebuild your GNOME stuff, and if problems persist, throw exception... I may do so if backing off freetype2 doesn't fix things. > But the latter bits of that are a bit drastic, depending on the hw! I'll manage. :) These are the pains of living on the bleeding edge. -Patrick -- Patrick L. Hartling | Research Assistant, VRAC patrick@137.org | 2274 Howe Hall Room 2624 PGP: http://www.137.org/patrick/pgp.txt | T: +1.515.294.4916 http://www.137.org/patrick/ | http://www.vrac.iastate.edu/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message