Date: Sat, 9 Aug 1997 20:33:26 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jonathan M. Bresler" <jmb> To: softweyr@xmission.com (Wes Peters) Cc: jmb@FreeBSD.ORG, chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FTC regulating use of registrations Message-ID: <199708100333.UAA29645@hub.freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <199708090610.AAA08010@obie.softweyr.ml.org> from "Wes Peters" at Aug 9, 97 00:10:06 am
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possible incindiary material..... ;) Wes Peters wrote: > > Jonathan M. Bresler writes: > > Michael Smith wrote: > > > > > > Jordan K. Hubbard stands accused of saying: > > > > There is a far easier solution to this problem, of course: > > > > Don't &%$!@#* reproduce! > > > > > > Woo! Go team! Voluntary ZPG! > > > > who will volunteer for ZPG....the best educated, the most > > caring members of society or least? would you want to live > > in a society that results from X generations of the best > > educated and most caring members of society practicing > > ZPG while the rest of society did not...not for me, thank you. > > Jonathan, here in the good old USA, we already do. Look what it has > gotten us. Scary recipe, huh? i am here in the usa....and it does concern me. the social changes in decently educated people will make it harder to create the citizentry of hte next generation. not impossible, but harder....could lead to greater social balkanization...gated communities, decline of public schools and opt-out by those that can afford to do so leaving an impoverished public life. (less funding for public libraries, schools, redirection of public funds to private or religious schools....these will not benefit the country as a whole.) > > In reponse to those who think the one-income family is a thing of the > past in the USA, I'd say you ARE putting your careers ahead of your > families. I did it. It's not easy; when my wife left work after our > baby was born she was making $36K/year, and on the way up. We bought a > house two months later and our housing costs doubled. > > So now we live on 33% less salary, with muchly increased housing costs, > and it is worth every financial sacrifice we've made to be assured that > our little girl is being raised by her parents rather than by a stranger > paid less than the legal minimum wage in clandestine cash payments, > which is the typical "nanny" arrangement around here. > > I've decided that Bailey is more important than a Pentium system for > myself, or a new car for Diane, or anything else for that matter. And I > do believe the USA and the rest of the planet would be better off if all > parents made the same choices; if we put our children before our toys, > careers, recreational activities, educations, political goals, and > everything else. i am there, doing it, got the 1040 tax forms to prove it ;) > > And for whoever chastised me for turning this into a USA political > debate, how could *anything* having to do with the US FTC *not be a USA > political issue?* That was the dumbest statement I've ever read on the > FreeBSD lists. > > Oh, and Bill Pechter: don't be so touchy. I wasn't blaming this problem > on "the liberals," just on "those liberals." ;^) You know, the > busybodies who want to legislate everything about how I am to raise my > child(ren). i thought those people were the conservative, "religious" right and "moral majority" ;) well, at least thats who there are in this neck of the woods. > > Sorry to have touched off such a flame war. Everyone who has children, > go home and kiss them. Everyone who doesn't: get off the stick, dammit! > The fact that you're FreeBSD users already shows a tendency towards > intelligence; you are *exactly* the kind of people who *should be* > procreating! (Yes, Jordan, this includes you! The world would be a > better place with a couple of little Jordans and/or Jordanettes running > around, being release coordinators for FreeBSD 37.x) jmb
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