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Date:      Fri, 6 Aug 1999 08:48:03 -0400 (EDT)
From:      Bill Fumerola <billf@jade.chc-chimes.com>
To:        Jim Mock <jim@blues.ghis.net>
Cc:        advocacy@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: followup: advocacy.freebsd.org (fwd)
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.4.10.9908060847570.37295-100000@jade.chc-chimes.com>
In-Reply-To: <19990806121610.A13888@blues.ghis.net>

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On Fri, 6 Aug 1999, Jim Mock wrote:

> Rob's asked me to forward this on to the list.  He seems to be having
> some trouble with getting mail through to certain places.
> 
> - Jim
> 
> --- Forwarded message from eagle@phc.igs.net ---
> 
> Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 21:52:30 -0400 (EDT)
> From: eagle@phc.igs.net
> Subject: followup: advocacy.freebsd.org
> To: advocacy@freebsd.org
> cc: jim@blues.ghis.net
> 
> In response to the discussion on advocacy about the advocacy site, I 
> felt it neccessary to bring up several points.
> 
> 1. There where many requests for help with the site.
> 
> 	I sent *Many* emails to the advo list requesting help, there
> 	were also requests for help on the site itself.
> 	
> 2. The issue about bringing the site into the tree.
> 
> 	Bill F, and I discussed this to death, Bill sent a email to
> 	core, offering to be mentor to Jim Mock and myself.  The
> 	result of his e-mail was it was denied by core.  I then asked
> 	Jordan about running a seperate cvsupd to provide access to
> 	the tree.  This request was also denied.  The reason being,
> 	that Jordan didn't want a bunch of new committers on freefall
> 	or the advocacy box.
> 	
> 3. Nik brought up the issue of tools used by the advocacy project.
> 
> 	Everything was done with the issues that Nik brought up in 
> 	mind.  The source of the advocacy site was written in SGML and
> 	converted to HTML through make.
> 	
> 4. The reason for the database concept, is not obvious from the
>    present implementation of the site.
> 
> 	The goal that we where working towards, was a dynamic site, 
> 	generating static pages.  One proof of concept is /.
> 	
> 5. There where several reasons why the content went stale.
> 
> 	1. We didn't want to make a lot of changes to the cvs tree on 
> 	   the advo box if it was going to be moved to freefall.
> 	   
> 	2. The last update we where working on was dependant on work 
> 	   being done by as usual in the advocacy sites limited 
> 	   lifetime 1 person. He switched Jobs while working on it,
> 	   and just didn't have time to finish it.. btw Thanks Tommy
> 	   for your efforts in helping with this.
> 	   
> 	3. What volunteers we did manage to recruit, for the most
> 	   part didn't contribute.
> 	
> 	4. I firmly believe the lack of a central repository. was the
> 	   final nail in this projects coffin.
> 	
> I want to thank those that did work on this project with me for there 
> efforts, The List is short and they all ready know who they are. I
> would also like to thank JKH for his input and Bill Fumerola for 
> attempting to bring about the one thing that I believe would of saved
> this project.
> 
> I would also like to apolagize for the lack of time that I have been 
> able to dedicate to the advo site in the last several months, I'm not
> going to explain why, as those who where involved in the site already
> know.
> 
> Robert E. Garrett
> 
> --- End forwarded message ---
> 
> 

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