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Date:      Fri, 3 Apr 1998 02:16:40 -0800 (PST)
From:      "Bryan K. Ogawa" <bkogawa@primenet.com>
To:        Malte Lance <malte@webmore.com>
Cc:        questions@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Advice for diagnosing X hangs / kernel hangs?
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSI.3.94.980403021334.5256A-100000@foo.primenet.com>
In-Reply-To: <3.0.32.19980403094213.006d37ac@cyclone.degnet.baynet.de>

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On Fri, 3 Apr 1998, Malte Lance wrote:

> At 13:42 02.04.98 -0800, you wrote:
> >On Mon, 30 Mar 1998, Malte Lance wrote:
> >> At 23:22 29.03.98 -0800, you wrote:
> >> >On Tue, 24 Mar 1998, Bryan K. Ogawa wrote:

> Maybe ... i encounter similar problems where my machine suddenly freezes
> (no log, no error, no nothing ... just sudden-death).
> I noticed it must be something with the scsi-system (while listening to
> the old good 'Ludwig van' ;)
> I changed the terminating device from CDROM to the tape-drive (SONY SDT-7000).
> Then this freezes did not happen as often as they did when the CDROM was
> terminating my scsi-bus.
> I suspect TERM-POWER is causing this trouble but i am not sure.
> I have played with the term-power config a little:
> 1. no term-power (same as no active terminator) [bad idea]
> 2. term-power connected just to the terminator, not the scsi-bus [good idea]
> 3. term-power connected to the terminator AND the scsi-bus [not so good]
> Best results gave nr. 2. so far (waiting for the next freeze with this
> config).
> My freezes always occur on heavy concurrent diskaccess.
> My scsi-system: controller, 3 scsi-disks, cdrom, tape, zip.
> It is not an OS-specific problem since this shit also happens with Win-95.
> On the next freeze i will take a disk as terminating device.
> If this will not solve my problems, i will order a new scsi-controller and
> forget about my adaptec-2940.

> Maybe you want to play with your scsi-bus-termination. Let me know about
> your results.

Hm... I agree with you -- this may be a SCSI problem (see the comments in
-stable about SCSI stuff).

I now have a 2nd machine so I can try to telnet when next my system hangs.

I have also had great success in reducing my hangs by running the
following program from another virtual console:

#include <stdio.h>

#include <unistd.h>


int main (void)
{
        for(;;) {
                sync();
                sleep(12);
        }
}

This does a sync() every 12 seconds.  I leave it running and I haven't had
a hang since (there was one, but I think I had suspended the
syncer before that hang).


bryan k ogawa  <bkogawa@primenet.com>   http://www.primenet.com/~bkogawa/


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